[gentoo-user] Program for posting to a Newsgroup

[gentoo-user] Program for posting to a Newsgroup

[Ian Zimmerman]

I cannot find a standalone program or script to post a prepared message
(already in RFC 822 format) to a NNTP server.  I had a working python
script to do this (which is trivial except for SSL and authentication,
because python has NNTP support in its standard library).  But for
various reasons I'm trying to minimize my python dependencies.

(I'd have asked this in comp.unix.networking, but there is an egg &
chicken problem :P )

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Re: [gentoo-user] Program for posting to a Newsgroup

[Thomas Mueller]

from Ian Zimmerman:

> I cannot find a standalone program or script to post a prepared message
> (already in RFC 822 format) to a NNTP server.  I had a working python
> script to do this (which is trivial except for SSL and authentication,
> because python has NNTP support in its standard library).  But for
> various reasons I'm trying to minimize my python dependencies.
 
> (I'd have asked this in comp.unix.networking, but there is an egg &
> chicken problem :P )

I suppose you could have used the python script to ask this question in comp.unix.networking, intending to switch after you get a good answer.

I actually did what you seek to do from DR-DOS 7.03, even worked from OS/2 Warp 4, with UKA_PPP but that was long ago.  Now I can't even find UKA_PPP on the internet, only nonworking links.

I think what you want to do is comparable to what I do in mail with msmtp (to send) and mpop (to download by POP3).

I don't have Gentoo portage in front of me but have NetBSD pkgsrc (pkgsrc.org) and FreeBSD ports (https://www.freebsd.org/ports/index.html), each of which has a news category.

This is a listing of FreeBSD ports news category:

Makefile
atp
aub
brag
c-nocem
cg
cleanfeed
cnews
crashmail
diablo
fidogate
golded+
gup
hellanzb
husky
husky-areafix
husky-fidoconf
husky-hpt
husky-htick
husky-huskylib
husky-smapi
ifmail
inn
knews
leafnode
lusernet
mail2nntp
mmail
multisuck
newscache
newsfetch
newsfish
newsgrab
newspost
newsstar
newsx
nget
nn
nnap
nntp
nntpbtr
nntpcache
noffle
nzbget
nzbperl
p5-NNTPClient
p5-News-Article
p5-News-Article-NoCeM
p5-News-Newsrc
p5-POE-Component-Client-NNTP
p5-POE-Component-Server-NNTP
pan
papercut
pgpmoose
plor
py-pynzb
py-twistedNews
py-yenc
rawdog
s-news
sabnzbdplus
slnr
slrn
slrnconf
slrnface
sn
suck
suck-cnews
tin
trn
trn4
ubh
xpn
xrn
yencode
yydecode

Check what's available in Gentoo portage.  You might also check mutt.

Tom

[gentoo-user] Re: Program for posting to a Newsgroup

[James]

Ian Zimmerman <itz <at> buug.org> writes:


> I cannot find a standalone program or script to post a prepared message


I just use thunderbird to post to nntp, assuming you have access to the nntp
server, just configure thunderbird or many any advance email program may
have that ability, to post to an nntp server.

hth,
James

[gentoo-user] Re: Program for posting to a Newsgroup

[Ian Zimmerman]

On 2016-07-13 03:15 +0000, James wrote:

> I just use thunderbird to post to nntp, assuming you have access to
> the nntp server, just configure thunderbird or many any advance email
> program may have that ability, to post to an nntp server.

I should have made it more clear that I meant a command line, pipe
friendly, Unix toolkit bit.

There are such tools for SMTP (swaks if nothing else).  Why not for
NNTP?  Why does news posting apparently require a huge monolithic "app"?

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[gentoo-user] Re: Program for posting to a Newsgroup

[Grant Edwards]

On 2016-07-13, Ian Zimmerman <itz@buug.org> wrote:

> I cannot find a standalone program or script to post a prepared message
> (already in RFC 822 format) to a NNTP server.

https://packages.debian.org/jessie/net/postnews

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[gentoo-user] Re: Program for posting to a Newsgroup

[Grant Edwards]

On 2016-07-13, Ian Zimmerman <itz@buug.org> wrote:
> On 2016-07-13 03:15 +0000, James wrote:

> I should have made it more clear that I meant a command line, pipe
> friendly, Unix toolkit bit.
>
> There are such tools for SMTP (swaks if nothing else).  Why not for
> NNTP?

Because you haven't written it yet?  ;)

Have you looked at inews?  The man page is a bit vague, but its
configuration file has a spot to configure an NNTP server.

>  Why does news posting apparently require a huge monolithic "app"?

It doesn't.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Program for posting to a Newsgroup

[Ian Zimmerman]

On 2016-07-13 14:50 +0000, Grant Edwards wrote:

> Have you looked at inews?  The man page is a bit vague, but its
> configuration file has a spot to configure an NNTP server.

But what/where/how is inews?  There's no inews package in gentoo.
Also:

 [5+0]~$ e-file /usr/bin/inews
No matches found.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Program for posting to a Newsgroup

[Ian Zimmerman]

On 2016-07-13 14:50 +0000, Grant Edwards wrote:

> > There are such tools for SMTP (swaks if nothing else).  Why not for
> > NNTP?
> 
> Because you haven't written it yet?  ;)

In fact I have, see the OP.  I just cannot believe I was the first one
there.

For now, I have rewritten it in python 3 which addresses my underlying
problem of future proofing my systems against python changes.  It turned
out to be easier than I had feared, in fact I could simplify it big time
because the NNTP module in python 3 is better.  And it's definitely
easier than to continue the hunt for a non-existent (on gentoo at least)
packaged solution.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Program for posting to a Newsgroup

[Grant Edwards]

On 2016-07-13, Ian Zimmerman <itz@buug.org> wrote:
> On 2016-07-13 14:50 +0000, Grant Edwards wrote:
>
>> Have you looked at inews?  The man page is a bit vague, but its
>> configuration file has a spot to configure an NNTP server.
>
> But what/where/how is inews?  There's no inews package in gentoo.
> Also:
>
>  [5+0]~$ e-file /usr/bin/inews
> No matches found.

I thought it was part of inn, but I may be wrong:

  https://packages.gentoo.org/packages/net-nntp/inn

You might be able to get slrn or tin do what you want, but it's not
obvious how from their man pages...

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[gentoo-user] Re: Program for posting to a Newsgroup

[Grant Edwards]

On 2016-07-13, Ian Zimmerman <itz@buug.org> wrote:
> On 2016-07-13 14:50 +0000, Grant Edwards wrote:
>
>> > There are such tools for SMTP (swaks if nothing else).  Why not for
>> > NNTP?
>> 
>> Because you haven't written it yet?  ;)
>
> In fact I have, see the OP.  I just cannot believe I was the first one
> there.

All of the news server packages used to come with command line posting
utilities.  But they usually posted to the local server and not to a
remote NNTP server.  But, I haven't run a news server in 20+ years...

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[gentoo-user] Re: Program for posting to a Newsgroup

[Grant Edwards]

On 2018-12-03, Thomas Mueller <mueller6724@twc.com> wrote:

> I see also the suggestion 
>
>  $ ssh -Y <server>
>
> but what would be the syntax for specifying <server> where <server>
> is a different computer on the same local network?

Does it have an IP address?

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