From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 47A471389E2 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2014 17:01:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BCAF7E091F; Wed, 3 Dec 2014 17:01:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B6759E088C for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2014 17:01:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DBD113405F6 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2014 17:01:48 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.071 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.071 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.419, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=1.2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 8MfTdSvMs2cl for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2014 17:01:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 05306340627 for ; Wed, 3 Dec 2014 17:01:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XwDIy-0006Ym-Ky for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Wed, 03 Dec 2014 18:01:32 +0100 Received: from 67-130-15-94.dia.static.qwest.net ([67.130.15.94]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2014 18:01:32 +0100 Received: from grant.b.edwards by 67-130-15-94.dia.static.qwest.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 03 Dec 2014 18:01:32 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: Grant Edwards Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2014 17:01:21 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <546EE70C.2050506@yourstruly.sx> <20141121173600.GA1029@ca.inter.net> <547370D2.50009@marc-stuermer.de> <54737886.a3a7700a.6f81.4209@mx.google.com> <20141124210516.53a54a90@digimed.co.uk> <54740bae.c12a980a.75de.01e4@mx.google.com> <54758310.c3ea980a.1491.31e1@mx.google.com> X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 67-130-15-94.dia.static.qwest.net User-Agent: slrn/1.0.1 (Linux) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Archives-Salt: e26e9a52-9a03-43b8-b8e7-6a482281a095 X-Archives-Hash: b6e36b018467d22e9a14ce94c5732302 On 2014-11-26, Gevisz wrote: > On Tue, 25 Nov 2014 22:02:49 +0000 (UTC) Grant Edwards wrote: > >> On 2014-11-25, Maxim Wexler wrote: >> >> >> >> No. It is not possible in Unity or, at least, it was not possible >> >> in Unity at the time when Ubuntu 12.04 was released. They really >> >> *forced* their users to accept the new place of the closing window >> >> frame button and have argued that it is more ergonomic. >> >> >> >> There was not any possibility to change the place of the closing >> >> window frame button in Unity via configuration options. Quite a >> >> lot of Ubuntu users complained about it yet in Ubuntu 10.04, >> >> where the new place of that button was a new default though >> >> it was possible to change it back via configuration options. >> >> In Unity, it was absolutely impossible. >> > >> > Try Lubuntu, with LXDE. >> >> Or Xubuntu with XFCE. >> >> I prefer Gentoo over Ubuntu for a host of other reasons, but switching >> from Ubuntu to Gentoo just to get a different desktop seems like >> overkill. > > Strange enough but according to the information from the > DistroWatch.com Ubuntu lost a lot of users and its status of the most > popular Linux distribution after switching from Gnome2 to Unity in > its 12.04 LTS release. > > And its not about a small change in an interface, it is about > we-know-better-what-you-need approach that drove quite a lot of > companies to bankrupcy. That's one of the big reasons I do prefer Gentoo. Ubuntu is great as long as you want to do everything the "Ubuntu Way". The minute you want to do something slightly different, it turns into a long hard swim upstream. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards Yow! I love ROCK 'N ROLL! at I memorized the all WORDS gmail.com to "WIPE-OUT" in 1965!!