From: John Covici <covici@ccs.covici.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead?
Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 08:15:37 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <m3mu73u36e.wl-covici@ccs.covici.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <efc2bccd-555b-0fd9-29ce-6828f941e24b@gmail.com>
On Wed, 22 Apr 2020 04:15:18 -0400,
Dale wrote:
>
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> John Covici wrote:
> >
> > I am seeing a lot more unmaintained packages -- at least in the ones I
> > have -- than there used to be and bugs going unanswered probably
> > because of that. Not sure what to do about it, I don't have time to
> > get into doing this much, just keeping up with world updates is quite
> > time consuming all by itself.
> >
>
>
> That may be but the packages that are most used are likely maintained
> and well maintained at that. There are some old packages that haven't
> been updated in years, upstream is dead or no one uses them much anymore
> that are slowly being removed. If one can't install them, no real point
> in them being in the tree. I might add, the switch from the much older
> pythons are really forcing a house cleaning. But, some packages are
> just out of date and something new has taken their place. Nothing new
> there. I'm sure this happens with every distro out there, even the paid
> ones.
>
> I follow -dev and have recently had to uninstall a package and install
> something else that is newer and more up to date. I saw a message about
> that old package that seemed to stop working for me a good while ago.
> What I had still lurking about would sometimes crash and I didn't trust
> it. I used to use that as a GUI to manage LVM. I use LVM a lot here.
> In that message was them removing the old package and recommending a
> replacement I never heard of. I installed it and it may actually be
> better than the old software I used to use. While the old package may
> be gone, the new one seems to be more up to date, stable and appears to
> have a better design. Different for sure, I'll have to learn how the
> GUI does its thing but could be better in the end. Since LVM has been
> updated a good bit in the past year or so, that old software either
> needed a lot of work or just use the newer software.
>
> There are a lot of packages that are just not used by enough people to
> maintain them anymore. Some are being replaced with more up to date
> packages. There are lots of reasons for that. If a package you use is
> being removed, search -dev and look to see if there is a replacement
> mentioned in the last rites message. If it was removed, they almost
> always include a replacement if there is one. Sometimes another package
> absorbs what the old package used to do. While at times -dev can get
> quite busy, I'd be lost without it. Things are mentioned there about
> upcoming changes that I don't see mentioned anywhere else. That
> includes this list as well. It's a great way to keep somewhat up to
> date on what's going on. One doesn't have to read every post either.
> After a while, you can tell by the subject line if that thread will be
> anything you would be interested in. Last rites, things about upgrades
> and such get my attention. I generally know when something big is going
> to happen weeks or even months before it hits the tree.
>
> If you want to share what packages you are missing out on, I'd be glad
> to search my -dev archives and see if I can find something that may help.
Well, teamviewer is the worst -- teamviewer 15 won't emerge because it
will overwrite files belonging to the previous version (!da). Someone
even slotted the thing, but still no joy. I filed a bug, but no
response. Also, although I don't think there is a new version, but
sendmail seens to be unmaintained.
Also, ant-core -- there is a bug against that, but no fix as yet.
--
Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is:
How do
you spend it?
John Covici wb2una
covici@ccs.covici.com
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