From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1C41615808B for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2022 18:57:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 0F152E0B13; Sun, 17 Apr 2022 18:57:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from covici.com (debian-2.covici.com [166.84.7.93]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 891DEE0AF8 for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2022 18:56:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ccs.covici.com (ccs.covici.com [70.109.53.110]) (authenticated bits=0) by covici.com (8.15.2/8.15.2/Debian-22) with ESMTPSA id 23HIvWbZ525892 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2022 14:57:34 -0400 Received: from ccs.covici.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ccs.covici.com (8.17.1/8.15.2) with ESMTPS id 23HIurCt2643651 (version=TLSv1.3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sun, 17 Apr 2022 14:56:53 -0400 Received: (from covici@localhost) by ccs.covici.com (8.17.1/8.15.2/Submit) id 23HIurPM2643650; Sun, 17 Apr 2022 14:56:53 -0400 Date: Sun, 17 Apr 2022 14:56:53 -0400 Message-ID: From: John Covici To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] for the speakup users on the list In-Reply-To: References: <8795e2b5-aaf4-c17f-6e32-74977bba8ca9@panix.com> User-Agent: Wanderlust/2.15.9 (Almost Unreal) SEMI-EPG/1.14.7 (Harue) FLIM/1.14.9 (=?ISO-8859-4?Q?Goj=F2?=) APEL/10.8 EasyPG/1.0.0 Emacs/27 (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) MULE/6.0 (HANACHIRUSATO) Organization: Covici Computer Systems Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 (generated by SEMI-EPG 1.14.7 - "Harue") Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Archives-Salt: 127846a4-8863-489c-bb85-7f236d50c468 X-Archives-Hash: 688fe5a87dd3fc7a0ad2e6404339454c On Sun, 17 Apr 2022 13:28:50 -0400, Mark Knecht wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 17, 2022 at 9:53 AM Jude DaShiell wrote: > > > > Yes, I am blind and can disassemble computers okay but never could learn > > to assemble them since the equipment to test memory external to computers > > has been and will remain inaccessible. This if it's done will have to be > > done by a repair shop and likely will cost more to repair this machine > > than replace it if that much work is involved. > > > > I was curious about speakup as I had not heard about it so I attempted > an install on my Ubuntu desktop but it's not in the default repositories. > > Reading the Ubuntu docs they say speakup is applied as a kernel > patch to 2.4 & 2.6 level kernels and that to use it with a modern > version the patches would have to be ported. It appears that all > the docs on speakup I found quickly stalled out in 2008-2010. > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Accessibility/doc/Speakup > > Do you know of newer work? > > I'm curious about the program from a persona point of > view. When I started at National Semiconductor in 1978 > we had a cantankerous old guy working on text-to-speach > synthesizers so I had a little bit of exposure. > > There are old Ubuntu releases here: > > https://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/ > > If I can figure out what kernels they were running I could > possibly try creating a VM and see where it leads me. > > Echoing Jack's comment, I'm not sure this is a heat > sink problem. Misoperation at the time of letting > go of the reset button prior to POST. If the machine is > starting cold a processor wouldn't overheat that fast but > I haven't yet read all of your thread. > > I think there's also an opportunity here to do some sort > of remote debug with you if we can find anything that does > boot. Speakup works in most recent kernels, 5.10.x and it is now in the mainstream kernel, but I forget what release it got in there. There are two types of synthesizers, hardware and software. Most people use software synthesizers these days, I still use a hardware synthesizer. You might need the espeakup package to make it work, or speechdup and speech-dispatcher. I am pretty sure speakup is even in the net install of gentoo. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici wb2una covici@ccs.covici.com