From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E76B13838B for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2014 15:01:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B9043E097E; Sun, 5 Oct 2014 15:01:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 50C07E0961 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2014 15:01:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 70A8333BE35 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2014 15:01:42 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.912 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.912 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.700, BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id wzXRG1zkLKpc for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2014 15:01:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7775133BDE9 for ; Sun, 5 Oct 2014 15:01:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XanJT-0001lI-H0 for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Sun, 05 Oct 2014 17:01:31 +0200 Received: from ppp118-209-130-183.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net ([118.209.130.183]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 05 Oct 2014 17:01:31 +0200 Received: from kensington by ppp118-209-130-183.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 05 Oct 2014 17:01:31 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: Michael Palimaka Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: has anyone tried KDE5? Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2014 02:01:19 +1100 Message-ID: References: <543144E8.9090206@libertytrek.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: ppp118-209-130-183.lns20.mel8.internode.on.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.1.1 In-Reply-To: <543144E8.9090206@libertytrek.org> X-Archives-Salt: e557b6c3-ce29-4246-ae6f-9bcecd94fead X-Archives-Hash: f52a6772a8150b0c0f2898056b45e5e2 On 10/06/2014 12:17 AM, Tanstaafl wrote: > On 10/4/2014 1:37 PM, Michael Palimaka wrote: >> The KDE release structure has evolved[1], decoupling the release cycle >> of the Platform, Workspace, and Applications. This means that there is >> no longer a single Software Compilation in the same way there was with >> KDE 4. > > Interesting. > > Has this been discussed in detail before? What is the consensus about > this in the gentoo dev world? Meaning - is it a good or bad thing? I've > been thinking about giving KDE a try again, but still read enough > negative things about it to give me pause (my time is very limited so I > have to pick/choose what I want to spend it on)... > > There's a fair bit of info about it floating around upstream. The Frameworks split has involved a great deal of cleanup, with a focus on continuous integration and pushing functionality to Qt where appropriate. The move from a single monolithic kdelibs to about 60 small frameworks will also drive adoption of the platform as it substantially reduces dependency bloat. As for Gentoo, we're just following upstream. :-) There's many more ebuilds than before, but packaging is a lot simpler. Given that it's early days both up and downstream, I wouldn't yet recommend Plasma 5 on Gentoo for someone that's not at least a little bit adventurous. I'd be interested to know what KDE negatives you've experienced/heard in the past though.