From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3607D138CD8 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 18:38:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B7907E089B; Wed, 27 May 2015 18:38:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8DE82E07D9 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 18:38:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1YxgDU-0001YZ-Ui for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 27 May 2015 20:38:13 +0200 Received: from rrcs-71-40-157-251.se.biz.rr.com ([71.40.157.251]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 20:38:12 +0200 Received: from wireless by rrcs-71-40-157-251.se.biz.rr.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 27 May 2015 20:38:12 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: James Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: General weirdness - a tale of woe. Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 18:38:08 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <2988031.1MpZN5Nf01@wstn> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 71.40.157.251 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:36.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/36.0 SeaMonkey/2.33.1) X-Archives-Salt: 32e10fc8-e1fd-428a-8cee-a90e0754a572 X-Archives-Hash: 38e82589e4ef2886955773b96162bb6f Peter Humphrey prh.myzen.co.uk> writes: > > Hello list, > > Over the last few weeks I've been having odd things go bump in the night. > This is a KDE amd64 system with /usr under / and no initrd. > 50 to 55C, which seems normal enough. Could I have something > misconfigured in the kernel? Well I'm going to share a problem I have right now. If you suffer from it, it could affect a myriad of different applications with different symptoms. I do not know if this will help you, but it's work checking into. Eselect news list 2015-3-28 lists "True multilib support on amd64" For me, I run a simple profile: [1] default/linux/amd64/13.0 * Because I run lxde and have experimented with several other minimalistic desktops, including lxqt. Currently, I run lxde. If I emerge with the --deep option, I get so much breakage that 3000 lines of scrollback is not enough to get to the head of the problem. Many errors contain the common string "abi_x86_32" which is central to the aforementioned news item. I have read this news item many times, tried many ideas, and still have this phantom problem. I can delete some packages had at the update, hours to days, get it cleaned up to where -D works and a couple of emerge --syncs later the problem reappears. Global update without (-D) --deep are just fine. I have no idea if this "phantom issue" relates to yours or not. I have hesitated to post about it, because in a decade of gentoo usage (and there have been some ruff patches to say the least) I have never experienced a transient recurring problem like this. I think I need a much longer version of that news item and some cook_book syntax to fixing these (phantom) multilb issues on my amd64 systems that I am experiencing. Some simple questions:: 1. How do you test if indeed a system is multilib? 2. Can a system be change, readily, from multilib to not and then back? 3. Is a more specific profile needed for one where you intend to run only a minimalist (lxqt) desktop (than what I listed above)? Note:: My ultimate goal is minimal desktops (lxqt) on most systems and excess resources pledged (dynamically) to a meso cluster underneath my gentoo systems. Comments and guidance are warmly appreciated. Peter I'm not trying to hijack your thread, but enquire as to commonality. hth, James "