From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B9911389E2 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 20:10:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id EE6B4E084B; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 20:10:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A23A5E07D5 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 20:10:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 946D7340528 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 20:10:27 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.342 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.342 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.630, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ECqqjniYzam2 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 20:10:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 12464340139 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 20:10:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XuRro-0001Xb-D8 for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 21:10:12 +0100 Received: from rrcs-71-40-157-251.se.biz.rr.com ([71.40.157.251]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 21:10:12 +0100 Received: from wireless by rrcs-71-40-157-251.se.biz.rr.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 28 Nov 2014 21:10:12 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: James Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's future directtion ? Date: Fri, 28 Nov 2014 20:10:00 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <5470D229.7000806@tampabay.rr.com> <54760E01.2050508@gentoo.org> <547620C2.8050806@gentoo.org> <5478A922.7070204@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 71.40.157.251 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1) X-Archives-Salt: 92689e15-0f3d-4db5-9d31-68ceafb762c8 X-Archives-Hash: dbacf16e19bda8223355a224706ad623 hasufell gentoo.org> writes: > Already doing so https://github.com/hasufell/games-overlay > and that's where I will update ebuilds, not in the tree. And I don't > care to get any of that into the tree. OK. > People are scared of other gentoo-like distros/PMs. Exherbo is evil, > paludis is evil, sabayoon is evil, ... I agree, there is much resistence and calcification deep in the ranks of gentoo. > I've already tried contributing to exherbo. They are technically ahead > of us in some non-trivial areas, but I don't think they have solved the > contribution problem. Sure, they are more distributed and have gerrit > etc, but their review workflow goes more the way "make a high-quality > user-overlay and then we will review it once and add it to our page". As a young distro, maybe that's all the man_hours they have for outside packages right now? > They don't care too much about themed and clearly scoped overlays and > about the difference of 'modular' and 'fragmented'. > 200 guys pushing into 200 repositories without _regular_ reviews (not > just a "gentoo dev" or "high quality" overlay badge) is not much > different to what gentoo does. Is this (above) aimed at Exherbo or Arch? > Arch is neither interesting from the technical nor from the workflow > standpoint, IMO. It has been around for a while. OK so keep in mind if you are successful at what you set up (your overlay ++) with gentoo, I'd be interested to know the details and maybe I'll move my codes to a similar structure; mostly java and science/math codes.... Drop me private email, or keep me informed whatever your chosen information dispersement is (a blog? etc) as your code development mechanisms evolve. sincerely, James