From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A356D138825 for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2014 20:09:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 52C44E0962; Wed, 5 Nov 2014 20:09:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E3870E08EF for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2014 20:09:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 961DC3404DE for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2014 20:09:00 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -2.59 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.59 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.606, BAYES_00=-1.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.594, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VM0EFj8YgUmm for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2014 20:08:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E17B3404FD for ; Wed, 5 Nov 2014 20:08:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Xm6so-0005hs-Or for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Wed, 05 Nov 2014 21:08:46 +0100 Received: from rrcs-71-40-157-251.se.biz.rr.com ([71.40.157.251]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 05 Nov 2014 21:08:46 +0100 Received: from wireless by rrcs-71-40-157-251.se.biz.rr.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 05 Nov 2014 21:08:46 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: James Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: The end of Date: Wed, 5 Nov 2014 20:08:28 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <54597281.40305@gentoo.org> <545A5AA4.8090607@gentoo.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 71.40.157.251 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1) X-Archives-Salt: 0a4a5c62-236f-420f-aa4c-35237bc01626 X-Archives-Hash: f2158d9825333f338dbac056e04b6864 Rich Freeman gentoo.org> writes: > > Surely we have a container project now, but no > > active cluster herd or project. > In any FOSS activity the #1 issue tends to be people willing to do the > work. If we have that, then there is no reason to let anything else > stand in the way. There are devs who are willing to proxy-maintain, > and if you just need a dev to put a page up on the wiki to call it a > project I'm sure somebody would be willing... Rich Well well well. Thank you for standing up. I'm going to privately work on this (cluster folks, java folks and science folks) whilst your team of devs figures out the final configuration of devs/projects/bug-wranglers. If you guys are successful in pulling this off, I have noticed several corporations with many gentoo-java-ebuilds that might throw a few crumbs our way. Java has sunken to such a low level on gentoo, that companies that use Java && Gentoo rarely bother with contributing back. I cannot speak for them, but I know they watch and listen from time to time. Java is every bit as big and important as python is, from a worldly perspective. Gentoo_ers that wish to be relevant, cannot merely wish this away. Java is a fundamental, enabling technology and it should be robustly supported by those within gentoo that care (Despite anything Whoracle does). Yes I am stepping up for this need, mostly because it is in my critical path now. I guess I'm acting like a dev now? Cursed-Beloved? I'm most willing to support others that want to pursue the cluster work that is needed. I shall give them every opportunity to lead (those of us newer to the cluster arena). But in the end, I'm about getting the work done one way or another. I do appreciate you and Michael for your efforts on this and other gentoo issues. I'm trying to be "collegial" but, I have my viking heretical issues, like some other over_achievers we all know..... One way or another we'll have a robust gentoo cluster offering; I'm just not sure how long it will take, but we are going to have some fun! Maybe we'll run cinelerra/blender on the gentoo clusters and build some "anime" comics of the gentoo dev characters? Clustering will be a blast! There is one who has done amazing things with clustering codes and anime on gentoo clusters already; but he remains aloof from gentoo. He is also quite young. thx, James