[gentoo-user] Handbook missing portage unpacking

[gentoo-user] Handbook missing portage unpacking

[James]

Hello,

I was just following the handbook for an amd64 install; I have
not looked at the handbook in a while. I downloaded the stage3
tarball and the portage-latest tarball at the same time, like I always
have done. The handbook give instructions for untaring the stage3, in 
section 5, but not the  portage tarball, or did I miss something?

Obviously I missed something, or is the portion of the handbook (amd64)
where you unpack the portage tarball, missing?

curiously,
James

[gentoo-user] Re: Handbook missing portage unpacking

[James]

James <wireless <at> tampabay.rr.com> writes:


> I was just following the handbook for an amd64 install; I have
> not looked at the handbook in a while. I downloaded the stage3
> tarball and the portage-latest tarball at the same time, like I always
> have done. The handbook give instructions for untaring the stage3, in 
> section 5, but not the  portage tarball, or did I miss something?

Well I see the emerge --sync takes care of installing a new portage.
It's been a while; but I remember downloading a portage tarball and
uppacking it?


oh well, we'll see.

No need to reply....


James

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Handbook missing portage unpacking

[Daniel Frey]

On 10/11/2014 01:37 PM, James wrote:
> James <wireless <at> tampabay.rr.com> writes:
> 
> 
>> I was just following the handbook for an amd64 install; I have
>> not looked at the handbook in a while. I downloaded the stage3
>> tarball and the portage-latest tarball at the same time, like I always
>> have done. The handbook give instructions for untaring the stage3, in 
>> section 5, but not the  portage tarball, or did I miss something?
> 
> Well I see the emerge --sync takes care of installing a new portage.
> It's been a while; but I remember downloading a portage tarball and
> uppacking it?
> 
> 

Yes, the last couple of times I did a fresh install portage took care of
installing it. I don't remember when this change actually happened though.

From memory (a very sketchy memory, I might add, so check before doing
it) the command was:

$ tar xvjf portage-latest.tar.bz2 -C /usr/portage


> oh well, we'll see.
> 
> No need to reply....
> 

Meh, I noticed this a while ago but didn't think to mention it. The docs
were already updated then.

Dan

Re: [gentoo-user] Handbook missing portage unpacking

[Stroller]

On Sat, 11 October 2014, at 10:25 pm, Daniel Frey <djqfrey@gmail.com> wrote:
> … 
> From memory (a very sketchy memory, I might add, so check before doing
> it) the command was:
> 
> $ tar xvjf portage-latest.tar.bz2 -C /usr/portage

I'd have thought you'd download and unpack the portage-latest tarball using the emerge-webrsync command, and have no need to download or untar it manually.

Stroller.

Re: [gentoo-user] Handbook missing portage unpacking

[Kerin Millar]

On 11/10/2014 21:13, James wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I was just following the handbook for an amd64 install; I have
> not looked at the handbook in a while. I downloaded the stage3
> tarball and the portage-latest tarball at the same time, like I always
> have done. The handbook give instructions for untaring the stage3, in
> section 5, but not the  portage tarball, or did I miss something?

It specifies that emerge-webrsync be used, automating the process of 
fetching and extracting a portage tarball.

--Kerin

Re: [gentoo-user] Handbook missing portage unpacking

[Rich Freeman]

On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Kerin Millar <kerframil@fastmail.co.uk> wrote:
> On 11/10/2014 21:13, James wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I was just following the handbook for an amd64 install; I have
>> not looked at the handbook in a while. I downloaded the stage3
>> tarball and the portage-latest tarball at the same time, like I always
>> have done. The handbook give instructions for untaring the stage3, in
>> section 5, but not the  portage tarball, or did I miss something?
>
>
> It specifies that emerge-webrsync be used, automating the process of
> fetching and extracting a portage tarball.

Correct.  This is much more efficient than rsync when you're starting
from an empty tree, which was one of the reasons the old procedure
used to recommend using a portage tarball.  emerge-webrsync works well
and is easier to use anyway.

--
Rich

[gentoo-user] Re: Handbook missing portage unpacking

[James]

Rich Freeman <rich0 <at> gentoo.org> writes:


> Correct.  This is much more efficient than rsync when you're starting
> from an empty tree, which was one of the reasons the old procedure
> used to recommend using a portage tarball.  emerge-webrsync works well

I'll have to try this"websync" sometime. I always like toget distracted 
and look at experimental, hardened, lilblue and many other tarballs just 
out of curiousity....

thx to all that responded. It had been a while since I followed a handbook
install. I wonder when btrfs will replace ext......(just kidding...)




James

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Handbook missing portage unpacking

[Rich Freeman]

On Sun, Oct 12, 2014 at 10:12 PM, James <wireless@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>
> thx to all that responded. It had been a while since I followed a handbook
> install. I wonder when btrfs will replace ext......(just kidding...)
>

Nothing prevents you from installing Gentoo on btrfs.  It really isn't
anything different from installing Gentoo on any other filesystem.  I
know at least a few of us run it.  Or, if if you prefer zfs on linux
the maintainer is a Gentoo dev...

--
Rich