From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 26B3D13838B for ; Sun, 14 Sep 2014 22:21:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D884CE09DB; Sun, 14 Sep 2014 22:21:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C6144E09D1 for ; Sun, 14 Sep 2014 22:21:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 21C1134027A for ; Sun, 14 Sep 2014 22:21:51 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.672 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.672 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-1.319, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, SUBJECT_UNNEEDED_ENCODING=2] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dxGOEqrWLBv6 for ; Sun, 14 Sep 2014 22:21:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 25E0833F7E0 for ; Sun, 14 Sep 2014 22:21:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XTIAt-0001FJ-76 for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Mon, 15 Sep 2014 00:21:39 +0200 Received: from rrcs-71-40-157-251.se.biz.rr.com ([71.40.157.251]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2014 00:21:39 +0200 Received: from wireless by rrcs-71-40-157-251.se.biz.rr.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 15 Sep 2014 00:21:39 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: James Subject: [gentoo-user] OT: old farts =?utf-8?b?c2x1bV9jb2Rl?= enforcement Date: Sun, 14 Sep 2014 22:21:28 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 71.40.157.251 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1) X-Archives-Salt: 8c20ae86-e75f-4735-bc6a-912bee403a22 X-Archives-Hash: e3b917ad18b0d856e81d6ebec261de6b > Alan McKinnon gmail.com> writes: > You are a C man. > Working with bash must be .... excruciatingly painful Ah yes, State machine design; not much fittering around with escaping silly little symbols..... sh/csh/bash/scripting is not bad. I just 'lift' the tough stuff from others mostly. With some codes, like Java, you read and follow 90%, then there is another code to find and read. It never ends, on and on and on.... Then instead of one choice you have 3 or 4 choices....... Maven is a whole nutter beast.... Why it is becoming so important is still a wee bit confusing to me. [1] http://maven.apache.org/ I'm just not use to that sort of world. In embedded, you over design before you begin coding. You do not have megabytes of lib stuff to find and read and test the dozens of variants. I like to code. It's debugging the stuff that drives me crazy(er?)..... These kids have no respect for us old farts. I remember when "numerical recipies in C" [2] was the stuff. Now it's C++ or Java. [3] I have a book on my shelf (where it belongs) on "Concurrency State Moels & Java" by Magee and Kramer, 1999 - Wiley. What a hoot! I'm still looking for "Numerical recipies in Bash" ? Ju gonna code that up? Howz your Fortan 90? I did not even know there was such an ugly beast [4]. I thought Fortran was outlawed decades ago. I guess nothing ever dies. Physicists have to have a language to themselves. Anyway, my_python is comming along...... (pist, don't tell anyone, but I almost, (almost) like python). [1] http://maven.apache.org/ [2] http://www.nrbook.com/a/bookcpdf.php [3] http://www.nr.com/ [4] https://gcc.gnu.org/wiki/GFortranStandards hth, James