From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F31FC13877A for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 18:56:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6B966E088D; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 18:56:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 310BAE087C for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 18:56:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0111F33FE1D for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 18:56:47 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.686 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.686 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.316, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.668, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=unavailable Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id yKxrE0iIsRBQ for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 18:56:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1774A33FB4C for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 18:56:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XCZ3F-00076H-Dl for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 20:56:37 +0200 Received: from rrcs-71-40-157-251.se.biz.rr.com ([71.40.157.251]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 20:56:37 +0200 Received: from wireless by rrcs-71-40-157-251.se.biz.rr.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 30 Jul 2014 20:56:37 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: James Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: USE flags handling Date: Wed, 30 Jul 2014 18:56:21 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <20140729201652.GA14289@waltdnes.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 71.40.157.251 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26.1) X-Archives-Salt: daeb4ec0-eb6c-4284-8498-ea0488077cad X-Archives-Hash: 3612f173a8f2df64835a903da0f8e8ca behrouz khosravi gmail.com> writes: > On Wed, Jul 30, 2014 at 6:37 PM, James tampabay.rr.com> wrote: > Thanks for your advice. They were surely helpful. My pleasure..... > This 'de-bloat' crap - who came up with that? People who use it all the > times seldomly realize that the 'small and unbloated' software they use > is in a lot of cases neither small, nor not bloated. I wish I could take credit for it; it is a very, very popular concept, characterize our newest noob, as you like.... Lots of folks have lots of reasons to reduce the space/ram/cup resource consumption, particularly for things they do not want and quite often due to constraints on resources....(ymmv). > Usually it comes from the same headspace that ricing comes from. Wow, dude! a serious compliment from one of my many heros! Do remember that my knowledge of "ricing" comes from the very coolest and early vintige motorcycles: https://www.google.com/search?client=seamonkey-a&rls=org.mozilla: en-US:unofficial&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ei=BjzZU_iXEuvmsAT74oKADA& ved=0CEoQsAQ&biw=886&bih=829&q=Original rice-rockets motorcycle Bloat (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bloated) Full Definition of BLOATED 1 : obnoxiously vain 2 a : being much larger than what is warranted now now boys, try not be so full of angst with your choices. Gentoo is about choices; and bloat by it's very nature, is in the eyes of the beholder..... Some guys like a 'big boodie, some guys like it skinny! >From a technical perspective, just look at the amazing world of embedded systems...... bloat will get you fired cause your embedded system will run slower than your competitors on similar hardware. Enjoy! James