From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A80421381FA for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 19:17:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id CB277E09A1; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 19:17:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ACCF1E095E for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 19:17:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD8E633FCF3 for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 19:16:59 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.402 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.402 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.749, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.651, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e-b7Hl1gylwu for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 19:16:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB5CA33FD0E for ; Wed, 4 Jun 2014 19:16:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1WsGg2-0004my-C5 for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Wed, 04 Jun 2014 21:16:46 +0200 Received: from rrcs-71-40-157-251.se.biz.rr.com ([71.40.157.251]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 04 Jun 2014 21:16:46 +0200 Received: from wireless by rrcs-71-40-157-251.se.biz.rr.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 04 Jun 2014 21:16:46 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: James Subject: [gentoo-user] quick installs on older/embedded hardware Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2014 19:16:33 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 71.40.157.251 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:29.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/29.0 SeaMonkey/2.26) X-Archives-Salt: 4cdc078d-ec5f-4b75-882e-eca1efc26c75 X-Archives-Hash: 90620f0f15baf87b54d5d73ccf9d8fab Hello everybody, I have a compliment of older x86 and amd64 boxes that I use for testing things; new or specialized gentoo offerings and such. Mostly amd64. Many of the older ide/ata drive systems have front loaded carriers that have quick hot swap feature that make it easy to shut down a machine. Swap the hardrive (and carrier cassette) and boot up with a differnt OS for testing. Often I use one machine to work on several differnet problems. I try to avoid the VM approach, because much of what I work on involves actual hardware issues and hardware verifications. I could put a minimal distro, such as system rescure, on to a usb stick, CD/DVD for booting, mount the drive and dd over complete images from various places, then a quick reboot to test a drive based distro. I have many differnt such gyrations ongoing and I need to deploy a singular semanctic for boot a myriad of offering to test/code on. To just name a few: pentoo, lilblue, lxqt(4), lxqt(5), wrt, embedded gentoo etc etc etc. It seems as though each is a "walk_once" exercise and I'm loosing my mind. Throw on top of this, BTRFS, CEPTh gluster, xfs, zfs I'm beginning to become too fragmented to stay focused on the task(s) at hand. (Side rant) If you read some of my (broken english) postings, they are mostly due to hardware irritants that have the majoring of my limited brain cells agitated to the point of illiteracy...... I use gmane (to post to gentoo-user) and it use to have spell checking, or I hacked it, but, for what ever reason, spellcheck in gmane seems to be gone now........ Anyway, I'd like to hear all of the ideas, including various disciplined (structured) approaches I can take to minimize uniqueness in my lab and what I'm currently doing (mostly). I also have usb sticks, but I've found booting various offernings on usb, particularly older hardware, to be too biosed_burdened. Bear in mind, I also have dozens of embedded boards, some x86, but mostly arm based, that are also in the mix. As soon as some less expensive arm64 (aarch64) boards become available, those too will become much more prevalent in my lab. I need some new organizational (software and Image) ideas. My hardware is very well organied on large, open racks with lots of UPS power and easy physical access to each box/board. I'm also going to draw things up using (app-admin/rackview). If/when I can take my network security to the next level, I'd like to open up 1/2 of the machines to the gentoo community for testing and debug on actual hardware. A portal to actuall hardware resources. I basically need the ability to move around complete system images between differment boxes. thoughts and comments are most welcome! James