From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB5F7138247 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2014 21:12:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2FF47E0D8E; Thu, 9 Jan 2014 21:12:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D919E0D66 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2014 21:12:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6798033F5C1 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2014 21:12:46 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.266 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.266 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-1.143, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.121, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id sE3fiDgzHEQ3 for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2014 21:12:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 68D1333F4DC for ; Thu, 9 Jan 2014 21:12:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1W1Mu3-0003CF-13 for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 22:12:35 +0100 Received: from rrcs-71-40-157-251.se.biz.rr.com ([71.40.157.251]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 22:12:35 +0100 Received: from wireless by rrcs-71-40-157-251.se.biz.rr.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 22:12:35 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: James Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: updating old box: segfaults with python Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 21:12:11 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <52CD3664.8010205@xunil.at> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 71.40.157.251 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Firefox/17.0 SeaMonkey/2.14) X-Archives-Salt: 471da686-ce77-49e4-a892-ccbeecde662f X-Archives-Hash: 54def1cf23467c3916b18ecf37dc3235 Stefan G. Weichinger xunil.at> writes: > yesterday I started to upgrade an older gentoo server at a customer. It > has only been updated now and then as they tend to save money and rarely > contact me ... > I would like to avoid to have to drive there so it would be great to be > able to fix that from here, via ssh. > Thanks for any help, Stefan Well it's probably late to "chime in" but, I have faced your delima too many time. I'm probably older and more of a grouch than your are but this problem is too simple. Build a second machine, with all they need, maybe a few new things. Copy the old data to the new machine. FEDEX (whatever) the machine to them. Since it is commercial and critical, no way in hell, I'd do this cheap. Teach them an expensive but excellent lesson. Let them keep the old box to do with as they like. They can even ship it to you every year or so for an upgrade. Redundancy is some thing I demand with commercial folks I deal with. Spare hardware onsite. Deploy one upgrade the other. PERIOD. They choose not to call, you have left them in good shape. The longer the duration between calls, the larger the invoice to fix. Customers like this are the reason many consultants/small firms go broke. "MAKE MONEY" and at the same time cultivate them into being a client you like having in your portfolio! Otherwise, ditch the loosers! or as they use to say money talks and bullshit walks... ymmv, hth, James