From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 747751381F3 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 16:22:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 55B3AE09BA; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 16:22:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3876AE0983 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 16:22:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7BF9633F060 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 16:22:00 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.481 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.481 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-1.104, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.375, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id lhER9K8n-QLJ for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 16:21:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E39F633EFD1 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 16:21:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VZNfQ-0002Vl-RS for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 18:21:48 +0200 Received: from rrcs-71-40-157-251.se.biz.rr.com ([71.40.157.251]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 18:21:48 +0200 Received: from wireless by rrcs-71-40-157-251.se.biz.rr.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 24 Oct 2013 18:21:48 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: James Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Kernel ricing Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 16:21:26 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <5268E324.4030900@gmail.com> <5269070D.1000701@gmail.com> <52693DC6.4050005@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 71.40.157.251 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Firefox/17.0 SeaMonkey/2.14) X-Archives-Salt: c41b403b-9319-4f60-9f72-5448ef715c35 X-Archives-Hash: e5d70b92df2d8567b792a6920faddabb Alan McKinnon gmail.com> writes: > I bet I'm an older fart than you are! nya-nya-nya-naaaaaa! tune of a teasing 6 year old) With all due respect, I was an " old-fart" in my youth. I use to love sitting around campfires with old hunter (gathers?) and shoot the shi____ about life. Beside my tantrums are so ledgendary, they often lead to a circle of folks joining in and chanting childish limricks to a rythymic dance. The Tequila goddess usually follows up my antics with show stopper (hoot_nanny) you cannot believe......... > Nah, the specs need replacing. There are some funky tri-focal jobs that > distort my depth vision, and I have to turn my head straight to look at > anything (no more looking out of the corner of my eyes). Makes > motorcycle riding a real pain preening code and riding a harley are differnt things? Boy, I did not get that memo. > I'm waiting for our approved hardware suppliers to come out with a range > of 1U pizza box ARM servers that management will buy into. But first > they need to lose the idea that virtualization is the go-fast solution > for anything. Virtualization is easy to shoot down for management types. Just start them on a task force adressing all of the security issues opened up related to virtualization.... [1] > Almost every single machine I run except the database servers will fly > along on ARM. I'm especially eager to see what ARM does with high > traffic DNS caches. Intuition tells me they will handle 20,000 > queries/sec without breaking a sweat and the Gig ethernet will max out > long before the cpu does; all at 1/4 of the price. Well, 10 G Ethernet is coming to systems near you, sooner than later. 100 GE is availabe for routers now, if you have loads of CASH.... Once again, Juniper is killing the competition, imho. Beside, virtualization is about to take on new meaning. [2] Imagine a state machine for handling low-level register-memory tasks, whilst a concurrent, real-time linux kernel handles traditional routing engine tasks, both running on the same "bare metal" in a new twist of virtualization....... Very secure to boot, unless the NSA influences the foundry's methologies for laying out the "bare metal"...... On the memory side of things, there are many viable options that the different ARM [3] vendors can choose from for such challenges. Personally, the memory type that accompany the GPU, I think will change the game for such needs, when the GPU become fully integrated with the cpu cores (like what happend to FPU) in various SOC offerings. Granted, Arm is late to the communications embedded systems efforts, but many of the top hardware designers in routing and networking, are working on ARM implementations for comm gear, as we speak. ARM is simply whipping the dog_snot out of the other architectures....... later, James [1] http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=2431216 [2] http://www.arm.com/products/processors/instruction-set-architectures/armv8-r-architecture.php [3] http://www.arm.com/products/processors/armv8-architecture.php