From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D73061381F3 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 15:02:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 130B4E0AA7; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 15:02:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 09241E09DB for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 15:02:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id EA4A0335E31 for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 15:02:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.638 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.638 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.984, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.652, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6tFsXjQf-mkZ for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 15:02:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D1DF233BE1E for ; Fri, 4 Oct 2013 15:02:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1VS6tc-0005Ra-JY for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 17:02:24 +0200 Received: from rrcs-71-40-157-251.se.biz.rr.com ([71.40.157.251]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 17:02:24 +0200 Received: from wireless by rrcs-71-40-157-251.se.biz.rr.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 04 Oct 2013 17:02:24 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: James Subject: [gentoo-user] Mantle Open source GPU engine Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 15:02:07 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 71.40.157.251 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/17.0 Firefox/17.0 SeaMonkey/2.14) X-Archives-Salt: fe377a99-4432-499d-bf13-64b8cd4266d0 X-Archives-Hash: 753ad5281661ec7c2be48f9dff4da04e Howdy one and all, Well I heard about about AMD's push, referred to as Mantle to unseat DirectX as the defacto gaming platform (yawn)... But recently, an egg_head mathematician that irritates me from time to time, called me in the middle of the night. He, being an eceptionally bright and difficult humnoid; would not shut up at what AMD is doing. Finally it seems that an open source, raw hardware access API is going to allow truely unfettered access to the computational blocks inside of a GPU. (ok now I was awake). Upon googing this am, I do see quite a buzz, particularly since all Nvidia would have to do, is decide to implement the open source -- open standard access to the bare metal of the GPU. This should not be taken likely as it is akin to all of the FPGA hardware folks giving away the billions of dollars in IP, software and integration tools that make building a custom processor, possible. Those tools are locked away, due to expense and the business approach of hardware vendors asking for money each time they reveal the tricks, trade secrets and heuritical methods to build low level components. What this means is that MANTLE is a game changer and opens up "bare metal access" to multitudes of ordinary computational and recreatioal computer weenies....(whoa Pee!) If this is true, it is a GAME CHANGERS (could not resist the pun). So: A. it is time for me to dig into this issue. B. Are any of the folks on this list working to get Mantle support available on Gentoo? C. Anyone tested one of the "Hawaii" radeon cards? D. Anyone working on running SteamOS virtualize on (gentoo) linux? as always, your thoughts are most welcome James [1] http://www.pcworld.com/article/2049369/amd-nvidia-ramp-up-linux-driver-support-after-valves-steamos-announcement.html [2] http://www.tomshardware.com/news/amd-mantle-api-gcn-battlefield-4,24418.html