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* [gentoo-user] OT: wrong ram?
@ 2013-03-05 17:22 James
  2013-03-05 17:36 ` Andrew Hoffman
  2013-03-05 17:56 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: James @ 2013-03-05 17:22 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Hello,

I purchased this ram from New Egg:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231529

G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900)
Desktop Memory Model F3-14900CL10Q-32GBZL

I've since found out it is for "Intel".....


I have an FX8350 processor with this mobo:
GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard 


So will it damage the board, ram or processor?

I've nevered RMA anything to NewEgg. It's been
over 90 days since purchase, but less than 120.

Thoughts, scolding and recommendations are most warranted...

I have since found this ram:
G.SKILL Trident X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2400 (PC3 19200)
Desktop Memory Model F3-2400C10D-16GTX 

That looks perfect for (overclocked?) FX8350 based system?


TIA,
James





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* Re: [gentoo-user] OT: wrong ram?
  2013-03-05 17:22 [gentoo-user] OT: wrong ram? James
@ 2013-03-05 17:36 ` Andrew Hoffman
  2013-03-05 17:56 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Hoffman @ 2013-03-05 17:36 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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It wont harm your computer but the memory timings/voltages will may need to
be set manually. Plug it in and try it out. The only real different thing
between Intel Other memory is the spd information is for intel rather than
amd in the ram will not run at rated speed until you change
timings/voltages to match. Let us know if you have any problems. I'm sure
they can be worked out. Oh and update the bios.


On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 11:22 AM, James <wireless@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I purchased this ram from New Egg:
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231529
>
> G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3
> 14900)
> Desktop Memory Model F3-14900CL10Q-32GBZL
>
> I've since found out it is for "Intel".....
>
>
> I have an FX8350 processor with this mobo:
> GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD
> Motherboard
>
>
> So will it damage the board, ram or processor?
>
> I've nevered RMA anything to NewEgg. It's been
> over 90 days since purchase, but less than 120.
>
> Thoughts, scolding and recommendations are most warranted...
>
> I have since found this ram:
> G.SKILL Trident X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2400 (PC3
> 19200)
> Desktop Memory Model F3-2400C10D-16GTX
>
> That looks perfect for (overclocked?) FX8350 based system?
>
>
> TIA,
> James
>
>
>
>
>

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* Re: [gentoo-user] OT: wrong ram?
  2013-03-05 17:22 [gentoo-user] OT: wrong ram? James
  2013-03-05 17:36 ` Andrew Hoffman
@ 2013-03-05 17:56 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
  2013-03-05 19:48   ` [gentoo-user] " James
  2013-03-05 21:14   ` walt
  1 sibling, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Volker Armin Hemmann @ 2013-03-05 17:56 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Am 05.03.2013 18:22, schrieb James:
> Hello,
>
> I purchased this ram from New Egg:
>
> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231529
>
> G.SKILL Ripjaws Z Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 (PC3 14900)
> Desktop Memory Model F3-14900CL10Q-32GBZL
>
> I've since found out it is for "Intel".....
>
>
> I have an FX8350 processor with this mobo:
> GIGABYTE GA-990FXA-UD3 AM3+ AMD 990FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard 
>
>
> So will it damage the board, ram or processor?
>
> I've nevered RMA anything to NewEgg. It's been
> over 90 days since purchase, but less than 120.
>
> Thoughts, scolding and recommendations are most warranted...
>
> I have since found this ram:
> G.SKILL Trident X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2400 (PC3 19200)
> Desktop Memory Model F3-2400C10D-16GTX 
>
> That looks perfect for (overclocked?) FX8350 based system?
>
>
> TIA,
> James
>
>
>
>
>
intel introduced an extension for spd information. The ram should work
just fine. Intel motherboards might or might not make use of the
additional information. so might or might not amd boards. And no, there
won't be any risk. DDR3 is DDR3.


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* [gentoo-user] Re: OT: wrong ram?
  2013-03-05 17:56 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
@ 2013-03-05 19:48   ` James
  2013-03-05 20:17     ` Andrew Hoffman
  2013-03-05 21:14   ` walt
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: James @ 2013-03-05 19:48 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin <at> googlemail.com> writes:


> intel introduced an extension for spd information. The ram should work
> just fine. Intel motherboards might or might not make use of the
> additional information. so might or might not amd boards. And no, there
> won't be any risk. DDR3 is DDR3.




Nice to know about adjusting the timings/voltages.
Any suggested further docs or resources on this
is of keen interest to me. Maybe an example?

I never had to adjust timings/voltages before. Then again,
I need to poke around the Gigabyte BIOS
as these are my first Gigabyte mobos. Very advance 

Thanks to all responders. I'll give it a go and post
back if there is any further issues.

James





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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: wrong ram?
  2013-03-05 19:48   ` [gentoo-user] " James
@ 2013-03-05 20:17     ` Andrew Hoffman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Hoffman @ 2013-03-05 20:17 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/bios-a-z,1200-11.html toms has good
guides on it.
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Understanding-RAM-Timings/26/1

Its really as easy as navigating the bios to the memory section and
changing the timing settings to manual mode. Then adjust to match the
setting for the ram. These numbers are your major timings you are concerned
with the others use either default values or automatic settings:
10-11-10-30 which break down to CAS 10, rRCD(RAS to CAS) 11, tRP 10, tRAS
30 your ram should also be 1T memory if you see a setting for it.
-Andy



On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 1:48 PM, James <wireless@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

> Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin <at> googlemail.com> writes:
>
>
> > intel introduced an extension for spd information. The ram should work
> > just fine. Intel motherboards might or might not make use of the
> > additional information. so might or might not amd boards. And no, there
> > won't be any risk. DDR3 is DDR3.
>
>
>
>
> Nice to know about adjusting the timings/voltages.
> Any suggested further docs or resources on this
> is of keen interest to me. Maybe an example?
>
> I never had to adjust timings/voltages before. Then again,
> I need to poke around the Gigabyte BIOS
> as these are my first Gigabyte mobos. Very advance
>
> Thanks to all responders. I'll give it a go and post
> back if there is any further issues.
>
> James
>
>
>
>
>

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* [gentoo-user] Re: OT: wrong ram?
  2013-03-05 17:56 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
  2013-03-05 19:48   ` [gentoo-user] " James
@ 2013-03-05 21:14   ` walt
  2013-03-05 21:51     ` Florian Philipp
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: walt @ 2013-03-05 21:14 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

On 03/05/2013 09:56 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:

> intel introduced an extension for spd information. The ram should work
> just fine. Intel motherboards might or might not make use of the
> additional information. so might or might not amd boards. And no, there
> won't be any risk. DDR3 is DDR3.

I just discovered some bad DDR2 RAM in an older machine (2GB x 2) and I
tested each stick separately using memtest86.  The result confuses me:

Each 2GB stick fails at exactly the same point in the test (0-32MB), and
that seems improbable to me.  I'm thinking the mobo might be broken instead
of the RAM.  Any ideas?

Thanks.  (I have only the one machine that uses DDR2, unfortunately.)





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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: wrong ram?
  2013-03-05 21:14   ` walt
@ 2013-03-05 21:51     ` Florian Philipp
  2013-03-05 22:03       ` Andrew Hoffman
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Florian Philipp @ 2013-03-05 21:51 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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Am 05.03.2013 22:14, schrieb walt:
> On 03/05/2013 09:56 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> 
>> intel introduced an extension for spd information. The ram should work
>> just fine. Intel motherboards might or might not make use of the
>> additional information. so might or might not amd boards. And no, there
>> won't be any risk. DDR3 is DDR3.
> 
> I just discovered some bad DDR2 RAM in an older machine (2GB x 2) and I
> tested each stick separately using memtest86.  The result confuses me:
> 
> Each 2GB stick fails at exactly the same point in the test (0-32MB), and
> that seems improbable to me.  I'm thinking the mobo might be broken instead
> of the RAM.  Any ideas?
> 
> Thanks.  (I have only the one machine that uses DDR2, unfortunately.)
> 

Try adjusting the timing as noted on this thread. Maybe slower settings
work better, even if they are below SPD. Also look at the voltages (most
BIOSes show them). If they are considerably off, this could affect your
RAM. A bad power supply is always a suspect when something breaks.

Regards,
Florian Philipp



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* Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: wrong ram?
  2013-03-05 21:51     ` Florian Philipp
@ 2013-03-05 22:03       ` Andrew Hoffman
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Andrew Hoffman @ 2013-03-05 22:03 UTC (permalink / raw
  To: gentoo-user

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Test them in a different slot each individually. if still fails install
both. swap back and forth.
-Andy


On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 3:51 PM, Florian Philipp <lists@binarywings.net>wrote:

> Am 05.03.2013 22:14, schrieb walt:
> > On 03/05/2013 09:56 AM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> >
> >> intel introduced an extension for spd information. The ram should work
> >> just fine. Intel motherboards might or might not make use of the
> >> additional information. so might or might not amd boards. And no, there
> >> won't be any risk. DDR3 is DDR3.
> >
> > I just discovered some bad DDR2 RAM in an older machine (2GB x 2) and I
> > tested each stick separately using memtest86.  The result confuses me:
> >
> > Each 2GB stick fails at exactly the same point in the test (0-32MB), and
> > that seems improbable to me.  I'm thinking the mobo might be broken
> instead
> > of the RAM.  Any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks.  (I have only the one machine that uses DDR2, unfortunately.)
> >
>
> Try adjusting the timing as noted on this thread. Maybe slower settings
> work better, even if they are below SPD. Also look at the voltages (most
> BIOSes show them). If they are considerably off, this could affect your
> RAM. A bad power supply is always a suspect when something breaks.
>
> Regards,
> Florian Philipp
>
>
>

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