[gentoo-user] Master list of all Overlays

[gentoo-user] Master list of all Overlays

[James]

Hello List,

Does 'Layman -L' yield a comprehensive list or does
it just poll from a subset of the different Overlay
from a select number of sites?

Does such a list exist that references (most) all 
Overlay repositories and the Overlay ebuilds therein?

Are there sites that are known not to trust?

If 2 different repositories have different
(hacked ebuild) then where do you get
information as to which one you should use?
Sure testing them both is warranted, but maybe
there is a site where these Overlays are close
to becoming stable enough for inclusion in portage,
maybe a last stage clearing site or such?

Do some sites have standards and other sites
let anyone put up a development ebuild?

'layman -S'
Are the listings automatically refreshed or 
do you (should you) issue one master command to sync (update) 
all of the repositories or sync per each repository?

Just looking for some feedback on these non
official ebuilds, in a general sense. I have had
very different experiences with Overlays and was
wondering if I have missed some wisdom along the
way..?


http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Overlay#Listing_and_Adding_Overlays
Best reference on the subject?

James

Re: [gentoo-user] Master list of all Overlays

[Alan McKinnon]

On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:25:53 +0000 (UTC)
James <wireless@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

> Hello List,
> 
> Does 'Layman -L' yield a comprehensive list or does
> it just poll from a subset of the different Overlay
> from a select number of sites?

layman -L lists all overlays the gentoo overlay infrastructure knows
about. Obviously it can't list overlays it has never been informed of.

Somewhere in the layman config there's an option to not list overlays a
machine can't use (eg git overlays where you don't have a git client),
I prefer to just leave it at the default and scan for red, green and
yellow asterisks when listing overlays


> Does such a list exist that references (most) all 
> Overlay repositories and the Overlay ebuilds therein?
> 
> Are there sites that are known not to trust?
> 
> If 2 different repositories have different
> (hacked ebuild) then where do you get
> information as to which one you should use?
> Sure testing them both is warranted, but maybe
> there is a site where these Overlays are close
> to becoming stable enough for inclusion in portage,
> maybe a last stage clearing site or such?

No, such a thing would be impossible to maintains and subject to much
subjective whinging

> Do some sites have standards and other sites
> let anyone put up a development ebuild?

I suppose so, just as different developers have different standards and
different policies on what patches they will accept

> 'layman -S'
> Are the listings automatically refreshed or 
> do you (should you) issue one master command to sync (update) 
> all of the repositories or sync per each repository?

layman -S updates all of your local repositories at once

> Just looking for some feedback on these non
> official ebuilds, in a general sense. I have had
> very different experiences with Overlays and was
> wondering if I have missed some wisdom along the
> way..?

Like everything else in life, people are involved and you have to work
on reputation and decide what you like. Sort of like choosing wives -
you can get lots of recommendations out there, all meaningless :-)

> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Overlay#Listing_and_Adding_Overlays
> Best reference on the subject?

It's a simple enough topic. Last time I read that page it seemed to
cover all reasonable bases, as did the official gentoo doc


-- 
Alan McKinnnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com

[gentoo-user] Re: Master list of all Overlays

[James]

Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon <at> gmail.com> writes:

> Sort of like choosing wives -
> you can get lots of recommendations out there, all meaningless 

thanks for the feedback.

On the subject of wives; it's easier to rent rather than
rent-to-own  or owning one outright, imho.....

thanks Alan,
James

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Master list of all Overlays

[Alan McKinnon]

On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:18:57 +0000 (UTC)
James <wireless@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

> Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon <at> gmail.com> writes:
> 
> > Sort of like choosing wives -
> > you can get lots of recommendations out there, all meaningless 
> 
> thanks for the feedback.
> 
> On the subject of wives; it's easier to rent rather than
> rent-to-own  or owning one outright, imho.....


I once worked for a fellow who did the math on that. He actually (no
kidding) worked out the true cost of ownership of a wife over 40 years
and compared it to the rental the services of a professional
<nudge><nudge><wink>wink> twice a week. All corrected for expected
inflation etc etc etc. He found that ownership was more expensive than
ownership by a large margin - a factor of five. And he got to keep the
bachelor lifestyle.

He wasn't an especially happy fellow mind you, but that doesn't matter.
He had done the math! (and was proud of it)

-- 
Alan McKinnnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Master list of all Overlays

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Fri, 24 Feb 2012 13:25:53 +0000 (UTC), James wrote:

> If 2 different repositories have different
> (hacked ebuild) then where do you get
> information as to which one you should use?
> Sure testing them both is warranted, but maybe
> there is a site where these Overlays are close
> to becoming stable enough for inclusion in portage,
> maybe a last stage clearing site or such?

Look at who runs the overlay and what they do in Gentoo. Some overlays,
such as kde and vmware, are testing grounds for ebuilds that will
eventually end up in the main tree.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Veni, vermini, vomui
I came, I got ratted, I threw up

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