[gentoo-user] Thanks for all the fish!

[gentoo-user] Thanks for all the fish!

[Alan Mackenzie]

Hi, Gentoo.

Just to say I'll be withdrawing from this list in a few days,
unsubscribing actually, mainly so that I can go back to being an Emacs
developer; the number of emails on both lists combined is just more than
I can handle comfortably.

I've counted 28 questions I've asked since late 2009, and every single
one of them bar two got good answers too.  One of those two I answered
myself just after posting the email ;-), and the other is currently a
bug report.

I'd like to say THANK YOU to everybody who helped me get a well running
Gentoo system and patiently taught me about it, but in particular to
Alan McKinnon because he's got such a splendid name.

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).

Re: [gentoo-user] Thanks for all the fish!

[Alan McKinnon]

Apparently, though unproven, at 20:32 on Monday 06 June 2011, Alan Mackenzie 
did opine thusly:

> Hi, Gentoo.
> 
> Just to say I'll be withdrawing from this list in a few days,
> unsubscribing actually, mainly so that I can go back to being an Emacs
> developer; the number of emails on both lists combined is just more than
> I can handle comfortably.
> 
> I've counted 28 questions I've asked since late 2009, and every single
> one of them bar two got good answers too.  One of those two I answered
> myself just after posting the email ;-), and the other is currently a
> bug report.
> 
> I'd like to say THANK YOU to everybody who helped me get a well running
> Gentoo system and patiently taught me about it, but in particular to
> Alan McKinnon because he's got such a splendid name.

Aw shucks, now you made me blush :-)

I know what you mean about the quality of user around here - no other list I'm 
on anywhere else comes close. I know I whinge a lot about the many wonderful 
ways Gentoo can break, but I keep coming back. Part of it is the ease of 
changing things around and trying new versions, but mostly it's because of the 
folks here.

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Thanks for all the fish!

[Alan Mackenzie]

Hello, Alan.

On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 08:49:37PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> Apparently, though unproven, at 20:32 on Monday 06 June 2011, Alan Mackenzie 
> did opine thusly:

> > Hi, Gentoo.

> > Just to say I'll be withdrawing from this list in a few days,
> > unsubscribing actually, mainly so that I can go back to being an Emacs
> > developer; the number of emails on both lists combined is just more than
> > I can handle comfortably.

> > I've counted 28 questions I've asked since late 2009, and every single
> > one of them bar two got good answers too.  One of those two I answered
> > myself just after posting the email ;-), and the other is currently a
> > bug report.

> > I'd like to say THANK YOU to everybody who helped me get a well running
> > Gentoo system and patiently taught me about it, but in particular to
> > Alan McKinnon because he's got such a splendid name.

> Aw shucks, now you made me blush :-)

Hah!

> I know what you mean about the quality of user around here - no other list I'm 
> on anywhere else comes close. I know I whinge a lot about the many wonderful 
> ways Gentoo can break, but I keep coming back.

It is only the dissatisfied who advance the state of the art.

> Part of it is the ease of changing things around and trying new
> versions, but mostly it's because of the folks here.

Yes, I understand.

> -- 
> alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).

Re: [gentoo-user] Thanks for all the fish!

[Sebastian Beßler]

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Am 06.06.2011 20:32, schrieb Alan Mackenzie:
> Hi, Gentoo.
> 
> Just to say I'll be withdrawing from this list in a few days,
> unsubscribing actually, mainly so that I can go back to being an Emacs
> developer; the number of emails on both lists combined is just more than
> I can handle comfortably.

Good bye and maybe we see you again here at some times in the future.

Good luck for being an Emacs developer.

*wave*
Sebastian


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[gentoo-user] Re: Thanks for all the fish!

[James]

Alan Mackenzie <acm <at> muc.de> writes:


> Just to say I'll be withdrawing from this list in a few days,

Well, you can withdraw from the volume of mail
but using gmane to interface to the list:
gmane.org

Just use an interface like gmane.org

or follow the postings (when time permits) via
your favorite mail reader.

Gmane if very cool and you do not need to post or
delete messages, only use on the rare occasion you
have time. If you hose your gentoo system, you can get
quick help from any web browser; no need to re-subscribe
to the list, just configure gmane and those mail packets
go BYE_BYE!

Mail readers are threaded and an easy way to catch up
on important things by just browsing topics....just
subscribe to linux.gentoo.user


Besides how can grow a cool community, if you leave?


hth,
James

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Thanks for all the fish!

[Alan Mackenzie]

Hi, James.

On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 06:56:49PM +0000, James wrote:
> Alan Mackenzie <acm <at> muc.de> writes:


> > Just to say I'll be withdrawing from this list in a few days,

> Well, you can withdraw from the volume of mail
> but using gmane to interface to the list:
> gmane.org

> Just use an interface like gmane.org

It's occurred to me - the mailing list is gatewayed onto NNTP.  Maybe I
could keep up there.

> or follow the postings (when time permits) via
> your favorite mail reader.

> Gmane if very cool and you do not need to post or
> delete messages, only use on the rare occasion you
> have time. If you hose your gentoo system, you can get
> quick help from any web browser; no need to re-subscribe
> to the list, just configure gmane and those mail packets
> go BYE_BYE!

> Mail readers are threaded and an easy way to catch up
> on important things by just browsing topics....just
> subscribe to linux.gentoo.user


> Besides how can grow a cool community, if you leave?

Hmm.  Yes I do feel guilty.  Maybe I can keep up on Usenet.

> hth,
> James

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).

[gentoo-user] Re: Thanks for all the fish!

[James]

Alan Mackenzie <acm <at> muc.de> writes:


> > Besides how can grow a cool community, if you leave?

> Hmm.  Yes I do feel guilty.  Maybe I can keep up on Usenet.

Yea OOPS, I meant nntp via your mail program. I use
thunderbird and the gentoo group is easy...

hth,

James

Re: [gentoo-user] Thanks for all the fish!

[Mark Knecht]

On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 11:32 AM, Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de> wrote:
> Hi, Gentoo.
>
> Just to say I'll be withdrawing from this list in a few days,
> unsubscribing actually, mainly so that I can go back to being an Emacs
> developer; the number of emails on both lists combined is just more than
> I can handle comfortably.
>
> I've counted 28 questions I've asked since late 2009, and every single
> one of them bar two got good answers too.  One of those two I answered
> myself just after posting the email ;-), and the other is currently a
> bug report.
>
> I'd like to say THANK YOU to everybody who helped me get a well running
> Gentoo system and patiently taught me about it, but in particular to
> Alan McKinnon because he's got such a splendid name.
>
> --
> Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
>
>

Best of luck and come back when you come to your senses! ;-) ;-)

Really, you're always welcome.

Cheers,
Mark

Re: [gentoo-user] Thanks for all the fish!

[Mick]

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On Monday 06 Jun 2011 19:32:11 Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> Hi, Gentoo.
> 
> Just to say I'll be withdrawing from this list in a few days,
> unsubscribing actually, mainly so that I can go back to being an Emacs
> developer; the number of emails on both lists combined is just more than
> I can handle comfortably.
> 
> I've counted 28 questions I've asked since late 2009, and every single
> one of them bar two got good answers too.  One of those two I answered
> myself just after posting the email ;-), and the other is currently a
> bug report.
> 
> I'd like to say THANK YOU to everybody who helped me get a well running
> Gentoo system and patiently taught me about it, but in particular to
> Alan McKinnon because he's got such a splendid name.

Cheers Alan and thanks for all the times you helped me with your answers!

Do drop by every now and then.  :-)
-- 
Regards,
Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Thanks for all the fish!

[Indi]

On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 06:32:11PM +0000, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> Hi, Gentoo.
> 
> Just to say I'll be withdrawing from this list in a few days,
> unsubscribing actually, mainly so that I can go back to being an Emacs
> developer; the number of emails on both lists combined is just more than
> I can handle comfortably.
> 
> I've counted 28 questions I've asked since late 2009, and every single
> one of them bar two got good answers too.  One of those two I answered
> myself just after posting the email ;-), and the other is currently a
> bug report.
> 
> I'd like to say THANK YOU to everybody who helped me get a well running
> Gentoo system and patiently taught me about it, but in particular to
> Alan McKinnon because he's got such a splendid name.
> 

Well, at least we lose you to another worthy project, sounds like.
Best of luck and come back whenever you feel like it!

-- 
klaatu virada nicto

Re: [gentoo-user] Thanks for all the fish!

[Alan Mackenzie]

Hi, Indi.

On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 03:15:14PM -0400, Indi wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 06:32:11PM +0000, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> > Hi, Gentoo.

> > Just to say I'll be withdrawing from this list in a few days,
> > unsubscribing actually, mainly so that I can go back to being an Emacs
> > developer; the number of emails on both lists combined is just more than
> > I can handle comfortably.

> > I've counted 28 questions I've asked since late 2009, and every single
> > one of them bar two got good answers too.  One of those two I answered
> > myself just after posting the email ;-), and the other is currently a
> > bug report.

> > I'd like to say THANK YOU to everybody who helped me get a well running
> > Gentoo system and patiently taught me about it, but in particular to
> > Alan McKinnon because he's got such a splendid name.


> Well, at least we lose you to another worthy project, sounds like.
> Best of luck and come back whenever you feel like it!

Thanks.  I'll definitely be back some time.

> -- 
> klaatu virada nicto

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).

Re: [gentoo-user] Thanks for all the fish!

[kashani]

On 6/6/2011 11:32 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> Hi, Gentoo.
>
> Just to say I'll be withdrawing from this list in a few days,
> unsubscribing actually, mainly so that I can go back to being an Emacs
> developer; the number of emails on both lists combined is just more than
> I can handle comfortably.
>
> I've counted 28 questions I've asked since late 2009, and every single
> one of them bar two got good answers too.  One of those two I answered
> myself just after posting the email ;-), and the other is currently a
> bug report.
>
> I'd like to say THANK YOU to everybody who helped me get a well running
> Gentoo system and patiently taught me about it, but in particular to
> Alan McKinnon because he's got such a splendid name.
>

	Good luck with all your future endeavors. Your participation will be 
missed, but that does not diminish the years you've put into Gentoo.

FWIW, I delete 95% of the threads on gentoo-user because of time or 
inapplicability to my systems or interests. I've also dropped my mail 
list subscriptions way way down over the years. It's something that 
everyone ends up doing as their priorities change or as interests focus.

kashani

[gentoo-user] Re: Thanks for all the fish!

[walt]

On 06/06/2011 11:32 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> Hi, Gentoo.
> 
> Just to say I'll be withdrawing from this list in a few days,
> unsubscribing actually, mainly so that I can go back to being an Emacs
> developer...

BTW, you've never told us your opinion of vi...

Re: [gentoo-user] Thanks for all the fish!

[Bill Longman]

On 06/06/2011 11:32 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> Hi, Gentoo.
> 
> Just to say I'll be withdrawing from this list in a few days,
> unsubscribing actually, mainly so that I can go back to being an Emacs
> developer; the number of emails on both lists combined is just more than
> I can handle comfortably.

Well, just make sure you pay your bill before you leave. You've been
asking questions for 1053 days now, so all those bits have to be paid
for. And we only accept pizza or beer. Alan or Dale will provide you
with the shipment details.

Re: [gentoo-user] Thanks for all the fish!

[Dale]

Bill Longman wrote:
> On 06/06/2011 11:32 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>    
>> Hi, Gentoo.
>>
>> Just to say I'll be withdrawing from this list in a few days,
>> unsubscribing actually, mainly so that I can go back to being an Emacs
>> developer; the number of emails on both lists combined is just more than
>> I can handle comfortably.
>>      
> Well, just make sure you pay your bill before you leave. You've been
> asking questions for 1053 days now, so all those bits have to be paid
> for. And we only accept pizza or beer. Alan or Dale will provide you
> with the shipment details.
>
>    

For future reference, I like pizza but give the beer to someone else.  
I'm a T totaler myself.  Also, my favorite is Papa Johns although I 
can't afford them anymore.  I'd rather eat a steak than spend that much 
on a pizza.  Pizza is good but steak is better.

And to think you all thought you had me figured out.  lol

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Thanks for all the fish!

[Alan McKinnon]

Apparently, though unproven, at 04:55 on Tuesday 07 June 2011, Dale did opine 
thusly:

> Bill Longman wrote:
> > On 06/06/2011 11:32 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> >> Hi, Gentoo.
> >> 
> >> Just to say I'll be withdrawing from this list in a few days,
> >> unsubscribing actually, mainly so that I can go back to being an Emacs
> >> developer; the number of emails on both lists combined is just more than
> >> I can handle comfortably.
> > 
> > Well, just make sure you pay your bill before you leave. You've been
> > asking questions for 1053 days now, so all those bits have to be paid
> > for. And we only accept pizza or beer. Alan or Dale will provide you
> > with the shipment details.
> 
> For future reference, I like pizza but give the beer to someone else.
> I'm a T totaler myself.  Also, my favorite is Papa Johns although I
> can't afford them anymore.  I'd rather eat a steak than spend that much
> on a pizza.  Pizza is good but steak is better.
> 
> And to think you all thought you had me figured out.  lol

Right, I'll have the beer then.

NewCastle Brown Ale thanks


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

Re: [gentoo-user] Thanks for all the fish!

[Joost Roeleveld]

On Monday 06 June 2011 16:11:57 Bill Longman wrote:
> On 06/06/2011 11:32 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> > Hi, Gentoo.
> > 
> > Just to say I'll be withdrawing from this list in a few days,
> > unsubscribing actually, mainly so that I can go back to being an Emacs
> > developer; the number of emails on both lists combined is just more than
> > I can handle comfortably.
> 
> Well, just make sure you pay your bill before you leave. You've been
> asking questions for 1053 days now, so all those bits have to be paid
> for. And we only accept pizza or beer. Alan or Dale will provide you
> with the shipment details.

Donations in the form of new hardware (like a proper Pizza oven :) ) should be 
fine as well... :)

Re: [gentoo-user] Thanks for all the fish!

[Alan Mackenzie]

Hi, Bill.

On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 04:11:57PM -0700, Bill Longman wrote:
> On 06/06/2011 11:32 AM, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> > Hi, Gentoo.

> > Just to say I'll be withdrawing from this list in a few days,
> > unsubscribing actually, mainly so that I can go back to being an Emacs
> > developer; the number of emails on both lists combined is just more than
> > I can handle comfortably.

> Well, just make sure you pay your bill before you leave. You've been
> asking questions for 1053 days now, so all those bits have to be paid
> for. And we only accept pizza or beer. Alan or Dale will provide you
> with the shipment details.

When it comes to beer, what better place than Bavaria?  We're not exactly
short of pizza either.  Come on all, down to Nuremberg, and I'll buy you
a round!

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).

Re: [gentoo-user] Thanks for all the fish!

[David Relson]

Long live emacs !

emacs is an essential part of my personal toolkit.  I've been using it
since 1996.  For 11 yrs before that I used epsilon - an editor
with much the same keymappings.  


I started using epsilon (


On Mon, 6 Jun 2011 18:32:11 +0000
Alan Mackenzie wrote:

> Hi, Gentoo.
> 
> Just to say I'll be withdrawing from this list in a few days,
> unsubscribing actually, mainly so that I can go back to being an Emacs
> developer; the number of emails on both lists combined is just more
> than I can handle comfortably.
> 
> I've counted 28 questions I've asked since late 2009, and every single
> one of them bar two got good answers too.  One of those two I answered
> myself just after posting the email ;-), and the other is currently a
> bug report.
> 
> I'd like to say THANK YOU to everybody who helped me get a well
> running Gentoo system and patiently taught me about it, but in
> particular to Alan McKinnon because he's got such a splendid name.
> 
> -- 
> Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).

Re: [gentoo-user] Thanks for all the fish!

[Alan Mackenzie]

Hi, David.

On Mon, Jun 06, 2011 at 07:47:37PM -0400, David Relson wrote:
> Long live emacs !

> emacs is an essential part of my personal toolkit.  I've been using it
> since 1996.  For 11 yrs before that I used epsilon - an editor
> with much the same keymappings.  

Wow!  I started in about 1997, writing my first commands (to scroll the
screen by 6 lines) a few months later.

> I started using epsilon (

That goes back a bit!

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).