From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Pqqj0-0002ZL-RG for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 17:36:07 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C99541C025; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 17:34:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 976F81C025 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 17:34:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E2E51B4343 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 17:34:24 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -2.526 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.526 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.073, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id haf+pzLSWwW1 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 17:34:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 67F791B433F for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 17:34:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pqqh9-0007fc-S2 for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 18:34:12 +0100 Received: from rrcs-71-40-157-251.se.biz.rr.com ([71.40.157.251]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 18:34:11 +0100 Received: from wireless by rrcs-71-40-157-251.se.biz.rr.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 19 Feb 2011 18:34:11 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: James Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Flash Player / Firefox trouble Date: Sat, 19 Feb 2011 17:34:01 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <20110219113505.GA5968@solfire> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 71.40.157.251 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101214 Gentoo/2.0.11 SeaMonkey/2.0.11) X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 02a2744899d17991368b9165e4325e6c gmx.de> writes: > got some problems here with the Flash Player Plugin and Firefox and > may other parts. Well, I was "noodling" around the net about video (VP8) and there seems to be a war brewing. As you know, Google is has open sourced VP8 as a replacement for H.264. It seems that the web browser groups each pay millions of dollars per year to be able to give away a browser that supports h.264 streaming video. h.264 is everywhere, cell phone apps, HDTV, utube, just to name a few. Now Theora was based on an old codec (vp3) I believe. Google purchased the company that developed VP8 and purports it to replace h.264. Naturally MPLA (the stinking lawyers behind h.246) is upset because the financial rewards of the the patents behind h.264 are worth an enormous sum of money, over the next few decades. VP8 is not threating that. If you saw my post on Nokia and Microsoft going down the darkside together (very strange), what I did not say is that Balmer is pushing the bussword "EcoSystem" composed of Xbox-live, Office and Bing. Google has that and more. Apple has their own "EcoSystem". Many Browsers will be dropping support for h.264 in the near future, and streaming video, at least in the short run, is now fair game and going to be not interoperable. Is this your problem? Maybe, maybe not. Drop back a version and see if it fixes your problem. Better still, one of the young (smart) kids on this list prolly (guesses?) knows all about this. If it is not your problem now, it surely will be *REAL SOON*; as it will become everybody's problem as the Economic Giants scratch out and protect their "video EcoSystems". Stock prices are more of a concern to these titans, than piss_ants consumuers (that's what they ALL really see in us). So do not be fool, Google is as big a whore as the rest, imho. Google has well intentioned folks, but to quote an old addage "Money talks and Bullshit walks"....... hth, James