From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1PnZ38-00024n-8k for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 16:07:18 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DCF001C05F for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 16:07:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 451F4E09DF for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:18:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C85481B4123 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:18:16 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -2.521 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.521 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.078, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id M5RiBG32cQDE for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:18:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id F29C71B40E2 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:18:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1PnYHS-0001F8-DS for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 16:18:02 +0100 Received: from rrcs-71-40-157-251.se.biz.rr.com ([71.40.157.251]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 16:18:02 +0100 Received: from wireless by rrcs-71-40-157-251.se.biz.rr.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 10 Feb 2011 16:18:02 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: James Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Disk Labels in Handbook Date: Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:17:47 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <20110209200838.2f6efac2@digimed.co.uk> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: sea.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 71.40.157.251 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.16) Gecko/20101214 Gentoo/2.0.11 SeaMonkey/2.0.11) X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 3c90d3714437dc33085009bc7f0effa6 Neil Bothwick digimed.co.uk> writes: > > These aren't needed to get a system up and running. Yeah, Ubuntu uses > > them for various ID purposes, but nothing really critical. Unless > > there's a clear need for them, for example if some package in the > > @system set will use them in a way that our users will see, I doubt > > the handbook needs to cover them. Adding labels using udev just seems > > very finicky and time-consuming, and doesn't seem like it would be of > > much utility when users are already swamped with everything else the > > handbook asks them to do. > Josh seems to be referring to UUID type disk labels, not filesystem > labels. Which are you talking about? Well, I think having this discussion, here on Gentoo-User is our best place to sort out what we want. So far the discussion on using labels makes it simple and straight forward. Disk labels and file system labels are related topics, imho. My thoughts are follow the KISS (keep it simple sonny) means that using a scheme that is easy (like the default one currently in the handbook) makes the most sense. Bright, skilled users, such as those that adorn this list (cough gag snarl), surely can use various schemes. I like the idea of linking to another document for a robust collection of alternatives and such, but keep the handbook simple and straightforward. So Disk Labels would look quite a lot like file system labels, but, that is just my opinion. Surely this discussion is warranted, before we all vote (Neil) for our the best/brightest? person to complete the Bug. If it comes from the list and a discussion occurred, like this one, it can be reference from the bug, and the doc-devs will have some confidence that much thought went into the suggestion. This approach will superceed my "half-baked" ideas..... Already we all agree that it is time to update the handbook. So I still seek guidance....... and then consensus..... and then we encourage one of our brighter members to complete the bug....... Surely Josh will like that? After all, he is still the flux_gate....... James