[gentoo-user] usb stick autodiscovery

[gentoo-user] usb stick autodiscovery

[James]

Hello,

On most of my kde workstations when I plug in a 
usb(memory)stick and popup screen appears
"Devices recently plugged in:"

On one kde system, this does not occur and I 
do not know what app/software to install or configure


lsusb shows the device properly, just like the other 
system. None of the systems that work correctly use
coldplug, all have the dbus flag set in make.conf.

Any hints are most appreciated.

James

Re: [gentoo-user] usb stick autodiscovery

[Jacob Todd]

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Diff your make.conf and package.use files. Somethong is probably missing.
On Oct 23, 2010 3:46 PM, "James" <wireless@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On most of my kde workstations when I plug in a
> usb(memory)stick and popup screen appears
> "Devices recently plugged in:"
>
> On one kde system, this does not occur and I
> do not know what app/software to install or configure
>
>
> lsusb shows the device properly, just like the other
> system. None of the systems that work correctly use
> coldplug, all have the dbus flag set in make.conf.
>
> Any hints are most appreciated.
>
> James
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [gentoo-user] usb stick autodiscovery

[Dale]

James wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On most of my kde workstations when I plug in a
> usb(memory)stick and popup screen appears
> "Devices recently plugged in:"
>
> On one kde system, this does not occur and I
> do not know what app/software to install or configure
>
>
> lsusb shows the device properly, just like the other
> system. None of the systems that work correctly use
> coldplug, all have the dbus flag set in make.conf.
>
> Any hints are most appreciated.
>
> James
>
>    

On mine, I had to add the "device notifier" widget to the panel.  That 
is what does the little pop up here.  Looks like one of your systems 
didn't add that by default, mine didn't either tho.

Oh, the unmount/eject thingy don't work here.  Do a sync command 
somewhere after copying files over to make sure it didn't cache them 
somewhere instead of writing them right then.

Dale

:-)  :-)

[gentoo-user] Re: usb stick autodiscovery

[James]

Dale <rdalek1967 <at> gmail.com> writes:

Hello Dale,

> On mine, I had to add the "device notifier" widget to the panel.  That 
> is what does the little pop up here.  Looks like one of your systems 
> didn't add that by default, mine didn't either tho.

Well device notifier is on the systems that work. somehow it
got deleted off this system....

I missing the 'dolphin file manager' and the 'usb viewer'
from the kde-4.4.2

Hmmmm, somehow this looks strange....

What the best way to rebuild all of the kde packages
on a (kde-meta) system? emerge kde-meta only rebuild the 
meta package itself....

Or should I just re_emerge a few selected packages?

(PS, try this command 'lshal') just for grins......


James

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: usb stick autodiscovery

[Dale]

James wrote:
> Dale<rdalek1967<at>  gmail.com>  writes:
>
> Hello Dale,
>
>    
>> On mine, I had to add the "device notifier" widget to the panel.  That
>> is what does the little pop up here.  Looks like one of your systems
>> didn't add that by default, mine didn't either tho.
>>      
> Well device notifier is on the systems that work. somehow it
> got deleted off this system....
>
> I missing the 'dolphin file manager' and the 'usb viewer'
> from the kde-4.4.2
>
> Hmmmm, somehow this looks strange....
>
> What the best way to rebuild all of the kde packages
> on a (kde-meta) system? emerge kde-meta only rebuild the
> meta package itself....
>
> Or should I just re_emerge a few selected packages?
>
> (PS, try this command 'lshal') just for grins......
>
>
> James
>
>    

Well, I'm sure some guru has a better way to list all the KDE packages 
installed but I use this:

qlist -I | grep kde

I then take that list and create a set and just emerge the set.  It 
worked a while back.

root@smoker / # lshal

Dumping 129 device(s) from the Global Device List:

I didn't know I had 129 devices in this rig.  Sort of funny how much 
"stuff" it takes to make a puter run nowadays.

Dale

:-)  :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: usb stick autodiscovery

[Alan McKinnon]

Apparently, though unproven, at 03:49 on Sunday 24 October 2010, James did 
opine thusly:

> Dale <rdalek1967 <at> gmail.com> writes:
> 
> Hello Dale,
> 
> > On mine, I had to add the "device notifier" widget to the panel.  That
> > is what does the little pop up here.  Looks like one of your systems
> > didn't add that by default, mine didn't either tho.
> 
> Well device notifier is on the systems that work. somehow it
> got deleted off this system....
> 
> I missing the 'dolphin file manager' and the 'usb viewer'
> from the kde-4.4.2
> 
> Hmmmm, somehow this looks strange....
> 
> What the best way to rebuild all of the kde packages
> on a (kde-meta) system? emerge kde-meta only rebuild the
> meta package itself....

emerge -avuND world

If that doesn't pull in the missing bits, you have USE flags and/or 
package.mask getting in the way.

equery depends might help, but it's only accurate for stuff you already have.
For more complex things, I usually read the ebuild and see what *DEPEND says

You'll have to find what -meta package[1] pulls in dolphin and usb viewer 
(grep ... *-meta/*ebuild) comes in handy here and then read those ebuilds to 
find themerge conditions.

kde-meta is merely a meta package for other meta packages...


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

[gentoo-user] Re: usb stick autodiscovery

[James]

Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon <at> gmail.com> writes:


> emerge -avuND world

rebuild everything related to kde-base. 

Device notifier is back, but you have to click
on the icon (on the panel bar) to get it to
'pop up' the app. On all the other system it does
this automatically. Device Notifier configured
the same on all system.....

I cannot find witch ebuild has (plasmoid?) device notifier in it.
part of knotify?....dunno....?

USE flags:

USE="mmx mmxext sse sse2 sse3 3dnow 3dnowext \
X alsa amd64 avi berkdb bitmap-fonts cairo cdr cli crypt cups \
-arts dbus dlloader dri dvdr eds elibc_glibc emboss encode esd fam  \
fortran gdbm gif gnome gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 hal dvd wireshark wddx \
input_devices_keyboard input_devices_mouse ipv6 jpeg kde vdr  sockets \
kernel_linux ldap libg++ mad mikmod mp3 mpeg ncurses nls nptl nptlonly \
ogg opengl oss pam pcre pdflib perl png ppds pppd python qt3 qt4 quicktime \
readline reflection sdl session spell spl ssl truetype truetype-fonts \
type1-fonts udev unicode userland_GNU vorbis xml xorg xv  java slp \
dvb a52 aac aalib asf dts flac v4l v4l2 vcd win32codecs real x264 \
ffmpeg xvid acpi divx jack tiff mplayer usb ppds mjpeg lm_sensors xine \
libcaca mng snmp imagemagick wmf dvdread lzo bl syslog css musepack \
async gimpprint logitech-mouse mysql postgres gd pcre png dv zvbi \
gmedia realmedia wmp aiglx pdf seamonkey live theora mozdevelop svg \
mp4 wav examples source cddb corba apache2 tk jpeg2k gs pvr nsplugin xvmc \
webkit qt3support sql \
corefonts wma gnutls "

http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/3895/diff/

Maybe this is my problem? I've rebuild the entire kde/base collection.



Ideas?


James

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: usb stick autodiscovery

[Alan McKinnon]

Apparently, though unproven, at 20:35 on Tuesday 26 October 2010, James did 
opine thusly:

> Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon <at> gmail.com> writes:
> > emerge -avuND world
> 
> rebuild everything related to kde-base.
> 
> Device notifier is back, but you have to click
> on the icon (on the panel bar) to get it to
> 'pop up' the app. On all the other system it does
> this automatically. Device Notifier configured
> the same on all system.....

configured the same - do you mean when you get with right-click tray-icon -> 
Device Notifier Settings?

> I cannot find witch ebuild has (plasmoid?) device notifier in it.
> part of knotify?....dunno....?

I beleive it's /usr/lib64/kde4/plasma_applet_devicenotifier.so which is in 
plasma-workspace:

$ equery belongs /usr/lib64/kde4/plasma_applet_devicenotifier.so
 * Searching for /usr/lib64/kde4/plasma_applet_devicenotifier.so ... 
kde-base/plasma-workspace-4.5.2 
(/usr/lib64/kde4/plasma_applet_devicenotifier.so)


There's nothing in that ebuild to indicate conditionals or DEPENDs.

near the top of CMake builds you will find a list of all the stuff the build 
system found to support and what it didn't. Is that list the same on all 
machines?


> 
> USE flags:
> 
> USE="mmx mmxext sse sse2 sse3 3dnow 3dnowext \
> X alsa amd64 avi berkdb bitmap-fonts cairo cdr cli crypt cups \
> -arts dbus dlloader dri dvdr eds elibc_glibc emboss encode esd fam  \
> fortran gdbm gif gnome gpm gstreamer gtk gtk2 hal dvd wireshark wddx \
> input_devices_keyboard input_devices_mouse ipv6 jpeg kde vdr  sockets \
> kernel_linux ldap libg++ mad mikmod mp3 mpeg ncurses nls nptl nptlonly \
> ogg opengl oss pam pcre pdflib perl png ppds pppd python qt3 qt4 quicktime
> \ readline reflection sdl session spell spl ssl truetype truetype-fonts \
> type1-fonts udev unicode userland_GNU vorbis xml xorg xv  java slp \ dvb
> a52 aac aalib asf dts flac v4l v4l2 vcd win32codecs real x264 \ ffmpeg
> xvid acpi divx jack tiff mplayer usb ppds mjpeg lm_sensors xine \ libcaca
> mng snmp imagemagick wmf dvdread lzo bl syslog css musepack \ async
> gimpprint logitech-mouse mysql postgres gd pcre png dv zvbi \ gmedia
> realmedia wmp aiglx pdf seamonkey live theora mozdevelop svg \ mp4 wav
> examples source cddb corba apache2 tk jpeg2k gs pvr nsplugin xvmc \ webkit
> qt3support sql \
> corefonts wma gnutls "
> 
> http://reviewboard.kde.org/r/3895/diff/
> 
> Maybe this is my problem? I've rebuild the entire kde/base collection.
> 
> 
> 
> Ideas?
> 
> 
> James

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

[gentoo-user] Re: usb stick autodiscovery

[James]

Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon <at> gmail.com> writes:


> configured the same - do you mean when you get with right-click tray-icon -> 
> Device Notifier Settings?

yes

> > I cannot find witch ebuild has (plasmoid?) device notifier in it.
> > part of knotify?....dunno....?
> 
> I beleive it's /usr/lib64/kde4/plasma_applet_devicenotifier.so which is in 
> plasma-workspace:
> 
> $ equery belongs /usr/lib64/kde4/plasma_applet_devicenotifier.so
>  * Searching for /usr/lib64/kde4/plasma_applet_devicenotifier.so ... 
> kde-base/plasma-workspace-4.5.2 
> (/usr/lib64/kde4/plasma_applet_devicenotifier.so)
> 
> There's nothing in that ebuild to indicate conditionals or DEPENDs.
> 
> near the top of CMake builds you will find a list of all the stuff the build 
> system found to support and what it didn't. Is that list the same on all 
> machines?

If this is what you refer to in the devicenotifier.so file 
(then yes)



0x0000000000000001 (NEEDED)             Shared library: [libplasma.so.3]
 0x0000000000000001 (NEEDED)             Shared library: [libkio.so.5]
 0x0000000000000001 (NEEDED)             Shared library: [libsolid.so.4]
 0x0000000000000001 (NEEDED)             Shared library: [libkutils.so.4]
 0x0000000000000001 (NEEDED)             Shared library: [libkdeui.so.5]
 0x0000000000000001 (NEEDED)             Shared library: [libkdecore.so.5]
 0x0000000000000001 (NEEDED)             Shared library: [libQtDBus.so.4]
 0x0000000000000001 (NEEDED)             Shared library: [libQtCore.so.4]
 0x0000000000000001 (NEEDED)             Shared library: [libQtGui.so.4]
 0x0000000000000001 (NEEDED)             Shared library: [libstdc++.so.6]
 0x0000000000000001 (NEEDED)             Shared library: [libc.so.6]
 0x000000000000000e (SONAME)             Library soname:
[plasma_applet_devicenotifier.so]
 0x000000000000000f (RPATH)              Library rpath: [/usr/lib64:/usr/lib64/qt4]
 0x000000000000001d (RUNPATH)            Library runpath: [/usr/lib64:/usr/lib64/qt4



I hack and rebuilt all kinds of stuff. Still the device notifier does
not pop up, as it does on other systems. Now the device is seen,
but it is empty on the problem system. I put the usbstick into
another system and it's fine. I've been through the kernel settings
for usb devices and file systems and they are the same and the same
version of the kernel (2.6.34-gentoo-r6).

What I have noticed is device notifier gives me many more choices
on my workstation than the borked workstation. It used konqueror 
instead of Dolphin. I do not know where to change this. The
config of device notifier, is rather spartan and I cannot find
where to set konqueror instead of dolphin as the default file manager
to open up the usb stick files and dirs.

Even if I cd into the (/media/device) dir it is empty.

I'm stumped. The system has been updated and everything is
fixed I can find, so it's gotta be in the kde4 config files?


James

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: usb stick autodiscovery

[Alan McKinnon]

Apparently, though unproven, at 16:56 on Wednesday 27 October 2010, James did 
opine thusly:

> Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon <at> gmail.com> writes:
> > configured the same - do you mean when you get with right-click tray-icon
> > -> Device Notifier Settings?
> 
> yes
> 
> > > I cannot find witch ebuild has (plasmoid?) device notifier in it.
> > > part of knotify?....dunno....?
> > 
> > I beleive it's /usr/lib64/kde4/plasma_applet_devicenotifier.so which is
> > in plasma-workspace:
> > 
> > $ equery belongs /usr/lib64/kde4/plasma_applet_devicenotifier.so
> > 
> >  * Searching for /usr/lib64/kde4/plasma_applet_devicenotifier.so ...
> > 
> > kde-base/plasma-workspace-4.5.2
> > (/usr/lib64/kde4/plasma_applet_devicenotifier.so)
> > 
> > There's nothing in that ebuild to indicate conditionals or DEPENDs.
> > 
> > near the top of CMake builds you will find a list of all the stuff the
> > build system found to support and what it didn't. Is that list the same
> > on all machines?
> 
> If this is what you refer to in the devicenotifier.so file
> (then yes)
> 
> 
> 
> 0x0000000000000001 (NEEDED)             Shared library: [libplasma.so.3]
>  0x0000000000000001 (NEEDED)             Shared library: [libkio.so.5]
>  0x0000000000000001 (NEEDED)             Shared library: [libsolid.so.4]
>  0x0000000000000001 (NEEDED)             Shared library: [libkutils.so.4]
>  0x0000000000000001 (NEEDED)             Shared library: [libkdeui.so.5]
>  0x0000000000000001 (NEEDED)             Shared library: [libkdecore.so.5]
>  0x0000000000000001 (NEEDED)             Shared library: [libQtDBus.so.4]
>  0x0000000000000001 (NEEDED)             Shared library: [libQtCore.so.4]
>  0x0000000000000001 (NEEDED)             Shared library: [libQtGui.so.4]
>  0x0000000000000001 (NEEDED)             Shared library: [libstdc++.so.6]
>  0x0000000000000001 (NEEDED)             Shared library: [libc.so.6]
>  0x000000000000000e (SONAME)             Library soname:
> [plasma_applet_devicenotifier.so]
>  0x000000000000000f (RPATH)              Library rpath:
> [/usr/lib64:/usr/lib64/qt4] 0x000000000000001d (RUNPATH)           
> Library runpath: [/usr/lib64:/usr/lib64/qt4
> 
> 
> 
> I hack and rebuilt all kinds of stuff. Still the device notifier does
> not pop up, as it does on other systems. Now the device is seen,
> but it is empty on the problem system. I put the usbstick into
> another system and it's fine. I've been through the kernel settings
> for usb devices and file systems and they are the same and the same
> version of the kernel (2.6.34-gentoo-r6).
> 
> What I have noticed is device notifier gives me many more choices
> on my workstation than the borked workstation. It used konqueror
> instead of Dolphin. I do not know where to change this. The
> config of device notifier, is rather spartan and I cannot find
> where to set konqueror instead of dolphin as the default file manager
> to open up the usb stick files and dirs.
> 
> Even if I cd into the (/media/device) dir it is empty.
> 
> I'm stumped. The system has been updated and everything is
> fixed I can find, so it's gotta be in the kde4 config files?

I'm out of ideas too. I think you might have better luck over at kde.org where 
you can talk to some kde hackers.

I did find on my system that individual devices for mounting were listed in 
~/.kde4/share/config/kded_device_automounterrc

I assume you cross-checked everything in SystemSettings between the two 
machines? If so, then I'm really out of ideas.


-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

[gentoo-user] Re: usb stick autodiscovery

[James]

Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon <at> gmail.com> writes:


> I'm out of ideas too. I think you might have better luck over at kde.org where 
> you can talk to some kde hackers.

Yep.


> I did find on my system that individual devices for mounting were listed in 
> ~/.kde4/share/config/kded_device_automounterrc

only diffs were due to dvd that have been played otherwise they are
the same.


> I assume you cross-checked everything in SystemSettings between the two 
> machines? If so, then I'm really out of ideas.

yep.


Thanks
James

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: usb stick autodiscovery

[Fatih Tümen]

On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 21:35, James <wireless@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
>
>> emerge -avuND world
>
> rebuild everything related to kde-base.

If you still haven't, try what Alan suggested.
I see that you have global hal USe flag but make sure xorg-server is
built with it. x11-drivers/* will need a rebuild after xorg-server.

--
   Fatih

[gentoo-user] Re: usb stick autodiscovery

[James]

James <wireless <at> tampabay.rr.com> writes:

What the heck, I'm rebuidling via: 
emerge -D $(qlist -IC kde-base/)


...we'll see in the morning how it works.....

James

[gentoo-user] Re: usb stick autodiscovery

[James]

James <wireless <at> tampabay.rr.com> writes:


> emerge -D $(qlist -IC kde-base/)

Dolphin is back, it show up in the 'lost and found'
submenu in kde4.4.5 and it's icon is now a question 
mark, so something is messed up. The kde4 usbviewer 
app is missing...

How/what do I emerge to get this back?

Any suggestions are welcome, as googling
has been fruitless, up to this point.


James

Re: [gentoo-user] usb stick autodiscovery

[Fatih Tümen]

On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 10:44 PM, James <wireless@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On most of my kde workstations when I plug in a
> usb(memory)stick and popup screen appears
> "Devices recently plugged in:"
>
> On one kde system, this does not occur and I
> do not know what app/software to install or configure
>
>
> lsusb shows the device properly, just like the other
> system. None of the systems that work correctly use
> coldplug, all have the dbus flag set in make.conf.
>
> Any hints are most appreciated.
>
> James
>


Last time device notifier stopped popping up was when I fed up with
hal and built xorg-server without it. This does not seem to be your
case but just for the record...
--
   Fatih