[gentoo-user] Domain name registration

[gentoo-user] Domain name registration

[James]

Hello,

I'm looking for suggestions to use for DNS registrars.

But first a few key points.

1. "I" own the domain name exclusively. This means if I want to 
change (move) registrars, it's not an issue, except for expenses.

2. No bundled packages for space of any kind needed or wanted.
   (I'll be running my own server on dedicated connection).

3. No DNS restrictions except for the Registrar running
optional secondary (dns) service for me.
I need to run the primary and the secondary DNS servers.


Lots of things have changed since I last did this, so
I'm definitely not interested in "Go Daddy" or any such
monkeyshines or crap. Just registration, and leave 
me alone to run my own servers..... i. e. no nonsense.


All suggestions are most welcome. I'm not really interested
in anything free (if there are any strings attached), 
but am willing to swap (dns) secondary services for 
light bandwidth types of similar DNS secondary services......


Are there any other choices using Gentoo, other than
DJBDNS or bind-9 ? Thoughts?



James

Re: [gentoo-user] Domain name registration

[Chuck Robey]

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James wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'm looking for suggestions to use for DNS registrars.
> 
> But first a few key points.
> 
> 1. "I" own the domain name exclusively. This means if I want to 
> change (move) registrars, it's not an issue, except for expenses.
> 
> 2. No bundled packages for space of any kind needed or wanted.
>    (I'll be running my own server on dedicated connection).
> 
> 3. No DNS restrictions except for the Registrar running
> optional secondary (dns) service for me.
> I need to run the primary and the secondary DNS servers.
> 
> 
> Lots of things have changed since I last did this, so
> I'm definitely not interested in "Go Daddy" or any such
> monkeyshines or crap. Just registration, and leave 
> me alone to run my own servers..... i. e. no nonsense.

I do precisely this, using GoDaddy.  I don't see why using a service like that
wouldn't be possible to get into what you want.  You'd have to make sure, when
you set it up, that you didn't ask GoDaddy to supply any other services, but
it's certainly possible.  I run my own server, I get the name from GoDaddy, but
they provide no nameserver services, nor web pages.  I used to get it from a
different vendor, but their service turned out to stink, so I learned that it
takes about a week or two to transfer the name (from X to GoDaddy), because all
services (like GoDaddy) need to go to reasonable lengths to make sure that they
aren't faked out by frauds.  You probably wouldn't really want less.

> 
> 
> All suggestions are most welcome. I'm not really interested
> in anything free (if there are any strings attached), 
> but am willing to swap (dns) secondary services for 
> light bandwidth types of similar DNS secondary services......
> 
> 
> Are there any other choices using Gentoo, other than
> DJBDNS or bind-9 ? Thoughts?
> 
> 
> 
> James
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

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[gentoo-user] Re: Domain name registration

[James]

Chuck Robey <chuckr <at> telenix.org> writes:


> > I'm looking for suggestions to use for DNS registrars.

> I do precisely this, using GoDaddy.  I don't see why using a service like that
> wouldn't be possible to get into what you want.  You'd have to make sure, when
> you set it up, that you didn't ask GoDaddy to supply any other services, but
> it's certainly possible.  I run my own server, I get the name from GoDaddy, but
> they provide no nameserver services, nor web pages.  I used to get it from a
> different vendor, but their service turned out to stink, so I learned that it
> takes about a week or two to transfer the name (from X to GoDaddy), because all
> services (like GoDaddy) need to go to reasonable lengths to make sure that they
> aren't faked out by frauds.  You probably wouldn't really want less.

I'm not sure that only registering a DN with GoDaddy, means that *you* 
actually own that DN. Might be possible, but in the dozens of friends
I've tried to help, all got screwed by GoDaddy. It just seems to me
it's easier to prevent it. Besides do I really want to reward a company
like GoDaddy with my business? Methinks not. ymmv.

My experience with other friends is that when they try to move from GoDaddy,
they get informed that GoDaddy owns the Domain Name.  I'm not transferring
a DNS that I already own, so, I'm very leery of using Go Daddy. They
might be ok to transfer an existing name, but, I'm not willing to 
take that risk.



Have you ever successfully transferred a DN that you originally registered 
initially with GoDaddyto another registrar?


Maybe I should justget ripped by Network solutions for a raw
registration for $35.00 and just be down with it?


James

Re: [gentoo-user] Domain name registration

[Paul Hartman]

On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 3:41 PM, James <wireless@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm looking for suggestions to use for DNS registrars.

I've been using namecheap for years (they are a reseller for eNom).
It's cheap and you get what you're looking for. I've got a few
domains, and been able to set them up for DKIM, Google Apps, etc
without any issues.

Re: [gentoo-user] Domain name registration

[Paul Hartman]

On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Paul Hartman
<paul.hartman+gentoo@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 3:41 PM, James <wireless@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm looking for suggestions to use for DNS registrars.
>
> I've been using namecheap for years (they are a reseller for eNom).
> It's cheap and you get what you're looking for. I've got a few
> domains, and been able to set them up for DKIM, Google Apps, etc
> without any issues.
>

There is also a coupon code this month that will give you a discount: 7tulips

Re: [gentoo-user] Domain name registration

[Daniel Iliev]

 
> 
> Are there any other choices using Gentoo, other than
> DJBDNS or bind-9 ? Thoughts?
> 
> 

Hi,

You might want to take a look at net-dns/maradns [1].
Lightweight, easy to configure, advertised as fastest and most secure.
I personally love the feature/extension "FQDN4 record" which allows one
to automatically set reverse resolving.

[1] http://www.maradns.org/

-- 
Best regards,
Daniel

Re: [gentoo-user] Domain name registration

[Anthony Metcalf]

James wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm looking for suggestions to use for DNS registrars.
>
> But first a few key points.
>
> 1. "I" own the domain name exclusively. This means if I want to 
> change (move) registrars, it's not an issue, except for expenses.
>
> 2. No bundled packages for space of any kind needed or wanted.
>    (I'll be running my own server on dedicated connection).
>
> 3. No DNS restrictions except for the Registrar running
> optional secondary (dns) service for me.
> I need to run the primary and the secondary DNS servers.
>
>   
I use http://freedns.afraid.org/ . Doesn't meet your not-free
stipulation, but I think just about encompasses everything else....
> Are there any other choices using Gentoo, other than
> DJBDNS or bind-9 ? Thoughts?
>
>   

Re: [gentoo-user] Domain name registration

[Alan McKinnon]

On Sunday 26 April 2009 10:05:56 Daniel Iliev wrote:
> > Are there any other choices using Gentoo, other than
> > DJBDNS or bind-9 ? Thoughts?
>
> Hi,
>
> You might want to take a look at net-dns/maradns [1].
> Lightweight, easy to configure, advertised as fastest and most secure.
> I personally love the feature/extension "FQDN4 record" which allows one
> to automatically set reverse resolving.
>
> [1] http://www.maradns.org/

I've never heard of maradns, but there's always some clown around claiming to 
be the "biggest, bestest, fastest, moreest". YMMV. "zero exploits discovered" 
can also be due to nobody has bothered to examine the source code....

djbdns and bind are OK for what James is looking at - they are well known, 
easy to set up with plenty of folks around who can assist with issues. bind is 
well-maintained too.

Just don't try run an auth server and a cache on the same server. That's a BAD 
idea. Rather run your own auth server, secondary to a DNS provider of your 
choice and use your ISPs cache servers for your caching needs (i.e. there's no 
good reason to be doing this for yourself)

-- 
alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com

[gentoo-user] Re: Domain name registration

[James]

Paul Hartman <paul.hartman+gentoo <at> gmail.com> writes:

> 
> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Paul Hartman
> <paul.hartman+gentoo <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 3:41 PM, James <wireless <at> tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I'm looking for suggestions to use for DNS registrars.
> >
> > I've been using namecheap for years (they are a reseller for eNom).
> > It's cheap and you get what you're looking for. I've got a few
> > domains, and been able to set them up for DKIM, Google Apps, etc
> > without any issues.
> >
> 
> There is also a coupon code this month that will give you a discount: 7tulips
> 
> 


Thanks Paul...

I guess I should have clearly stated that I was looking for a DNS registrar
that, by default, make the customer the DNS registrant, instead of themselves.
As you know, if you are the DNS registrant, then, you own the DN. Many folks
discover this only when they try to migrate ?their? DN.

http://www.keytlaw.com/urls/whoowns.htm

Most registrars do not do this, and personally it miffs me quite a lot.......

I'll Look into "namecheap" and see what their  policy and practices are.

Thanks again,


James

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Domain name registration

[Paul Hartman]

On Sun, Apr 26, 2009 at 12:47 PM, James <wireless@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
> Paul Hartman <paul.hartman+gentoo <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
>>
>> On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Paul Hartman
>> <paul.hartman+gentoo <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 3:41 PM, James <wireless <at> tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
>> >> Hello,
>> >>
>> >> I'm looking for suggestions to use for DNS registrars.
>> >
>> > I've been using namecheap for years (they are a reseller for eNom).
>> > It's cheap and you get what you're looking for. I've got a few
>> > domains, and been able to set them up for DKIM, Google Apps, etc
>> > without any issues.
>> >
>>
>> There is also a coupon code this month that will give you a discount: 7tulips
>>
>>
>
>
> Thanks Paul...
>
> I guess I should have clearly stated that I was looking for a DNS registrar
> that, by default, make the customer the DNS registrant, instead of themselves.
> As you know, if you are the DNS registrant, then, you own the DN. Many folks
> discover this only when they try to migrate ?their? DN.
>
> http://www.keytlaw.com/urls/whoowns.htm
>
> Most registrars do not do this, and personally it miffs me quite a lot.......
>
> I'll Look into "namecheap" and see what their  policy and practices are.

Don't worry, with them you own it and there are no catches that I've
seen... it's just a straight up domain name registration, no web
hosting or other nonsense. Your own info (whatever you tell it) goes
into all of the fields in the whois database... they offer a
"whoisguard" service which masks your info, if you want privacy (and
to reduce the amount of spam and physical junk mail you'll get -- and
you'll get plenty) but it's completely optional and if you're worried
about having their "whoisguard" as the name in the whois database, you
don't need to use it.

[gentoo-user] Re: Domain name registration

[James]

Anthony Metcalf <nevyn <at> anferny.me.uk> writes:


> I use http://freedns.afraid.org/ . Doesn't meet your not-free
> stipulation, but I think just about encompasses everything else....

Thanks Everyone for the suggestions and information.
I've got to build up several machines and get the DNS
registered.

Since it's been a while, I think I'm first going to use
Bind-9 for now. I'm sure I'll be posting for some 
help, file tweaking and deeper wisdom as to 
any mods with the firewall. I'm actually looking
forward to this project, since it is for me,
over the next few weekends....


thanks again,

James