From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JEajv-0001ZU-DJ for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 01:37:19 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id C7667E0837; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 01:36:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 17182E0835 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 01:36:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9ABA865BA0 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 01:36:49 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -0.886 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.886 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.887, BAYES_50=0.001] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id YjUiJ9Y4AiRP for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 01:36:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8DB9F65B78 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 01:36:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JEajB-0002ZY-4g for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 01:36:33 +0000 Received: from buffer.net ([24.73.161.102]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 01:36:33 +0000 Received: from wireless by buffer.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 15 Jan 2008 01:36:33 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: James Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Daniel Robbins' come back ? Date: Tue, 15 Jan 2008 01:36:23 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1200129071.4788842fc5816@imp.free.fr> <200801141911.02433.shrdlu@unlimitedmail.org> <200801142316.43498.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 24.73.161.102 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071210 SeaMonkey/1.1.7) Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: d8484f00-4458-4818-a7b0-59acae88c4ae X-Archives-Hash: 0752e2c81977f464b48619ee95b2a3e9 Alan McKinnon gmail.com> writes: > Seeing as Linus himself has stated that he has absolutely no intention > of changing the license on the kernel, your idea is unworkable. My idea is not to mess with either the GPL2/3 applications nor the gplv2 kernel. What ever is under the "Gentoo" umbrella could conceivably be changed to a BSD style license. In those areas where it cannot then just leave it GPLed or code around the GPL until it is minimized. I could easily see a FPGA partioned into a multi processor system, with published GPL code on one core and code under a new, Entrepreneurial license on a different part of the FPGA cores. In fact, one could network two x86 machines, one running as a GPL linux system and the other running Entrepreneurial code from a different license, as a development platform. In my opinion we are on the verge of truly distributed computing where Open Source GPL(ed) systems and devices will integrate with old fashion (closed source) products, in a rapid fashion. The Gentoo devs could get out in front of the revolution, and spawn lots of Entrepreneurs, or they can follow MS and leave the GPL shackles around their necks. (I sure hope they do not try to cross the river).... The point I was trying to may (and not really a hard sell but just to illuminate moving gentoo into more of an "Entrepreneur distro") would be to build the future of Gentoo (or a fork) on a better license model than GPL. GPL has worked reasonable well, but things have changed quit a lot. It's time for folks to leverage Open Source to make money. You want to live on Massa's Farm, that's your choice. I have tasted (economic) freedom and it drives me mad how the masses of folks just 'get in line' with what they hear over the loud speakers...... Oh well, I'm done with this issue. I don't think I can help, lifting the (Gentoo) devs nor the greater Gentoo user base out of economic despair , if folks do not agree with moving to a different licensing scheme, for the unique work that characterizes and surrounds Gentoo. GPL is a vow of poverty, IMHO. It sure will be interesting to see where Daniel and the trustees take/leave the distro........ My guess is Daniel has seen, smelled and maybe lightly tasted the flavors of economic success, and some influential folks and poked him in the ribs and said (pissst, isn't gentoo your prodigy? take that puppy public and cash in.....) just a hunch, James -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list