From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([69.77.167.62] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1JEWwo-0003es-7v for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:34:22 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 75991E09E9; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:33:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CCC65E09E8 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:33:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 575F665036 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:33:53 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -0.98 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.98 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.795, BAYES_40=-0.185] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id FWdXtaySVw7z for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:33:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ciao.gmane.org (main.gmane.org [80.91.229.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CBBF657DC for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:33:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1JEWw5-0006nL-56 for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:33:37 +0000 Received: from www.buffer.net ([24.73.161.102]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:33:37 +0000 Received: from wireless by www.buffer.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:33:37 +0000 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: James Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: License issues [was:Daniel Robbins' come back ?] Date: Mon, 14 Jan 2008 21:33:31 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <1200129071.4788842fc5816@imp.free.fr> <200801141911.02433.shrdlu@unlimitedmail.org> <200801142143.28132.shrdlu@unlimitedmail.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 24.73.161.102 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.8.1.11) Gecko/20071210 SeaMonkey/1.1.7) Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: 33403f03-1247-4617-9525-c97fb9065878 X-Archives-Hash: ed3ef24c8b0da00ca78f2bb715f551b1 Etaoin Shrdlu unlimitedmail.org> writes: > What you're saying here is not a secret, in fact these are all more or > less well-known facts. Yes, they probably did violate some open source > license. However, I don't see how having had closed source products > would have prevented them from doing what they wanted to do anyway. > And furthermore, what does all this have to do with "making money with > open source"? I just do not see the harm in letting a small (sub 1 million dollar company) build a product and not provide any details or what they did or how they did it. In the end, their success is more likely related to how slick their marketing campaign is or how well conceived the product/service is or how good their support is or some other twist. The GPL goes a long way to discouraging/preventing many of the serfs from ever trying.... IMHO. I believe that the GPL is the spawn of satan. I think the 'serfs' (the greater gentoo community) would be better off with a BSD style license related to Gentoo technologies and still use GPL software, as the individual chooses. After all, most of the BSD variants and derivatives (except those RTOS that large corporations use in some of their products) Still manage to use GPL software. Obviously, you think that GPL is a panacea. OK we agree to disagree. seeya James -- gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org mailing list