[gentoo-user] OT: ssh/scp on XP and gentoo

[gentoo-user] OT: ssh/scp on XP and gentoo

[James]

Hello,

I'd like to run ssh/scp on XP and Vista. However there seems to be losts of 
different ideas about how best to do this. [1]. I need to be able to selective
scp various files from a windows system to a gentoo system, so I do not want
to be limited to the cygwin installation tree of files. [2]

I'd be curious what folks on this list recommend, or any other software
for such interoperability between gentoo and XP/vista systems.


[1] http://www.openssh.com/windows.html
[2] http://www.jfitz.com/tips/ssh_for_windows.html#Should_I_use_SSH_or_a_VPN


James




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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: ssh/scp on XP and gentoo

[Mick]

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Hi James,

On Thursday 18 October 2007, James wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'd like to run ssh/scp on XP and Vista. However there seems to be losts of
> different ideas about how best to do this. [1]. I need to be able to
> selective scp various files from a windows system to a gentoo system, so I
> do not want to be limited to the cygwin installation tree of files. [2]
>
> I'd be curious what folks on this list recommend, or any other software
> for such interoperability between gentoo and XP/vista systems.
>
>
> [1] http://www.openssh.com/windows.html
> [2]
> http://www.jfitz.com/tips/ssh_for_windows.html#Should_I_use_SSH_or_a_VPN

openssh is somewhat out of date - best you use CopSSH which installs both an 
sshd and an ssh client.  Alternatively, you have the following options:

PuTTY for a command line ssh client which will also use public key 
authentication, instead of password authentication.

Filezilla, for a ftp/sftp client (at this moment it only uses passwd 
authentication).

WinSCP which can use a PuTTY style private/public key authentication.

You should be able to dig out the relevant links in Google, otherwise give me 
a shout.

HTH.
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[gentoo-user] Re: OT: ssh/scp on XP and gentoo

[Guilherme Amadio]

On Thu, Oct 18, 2007 at 07:00:51PM +0000, James wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I'd like to run ssh/scp on XP and Vista. However there seems to be losts of 
> different ideas about how best to do this. [1]. I need to be able to selective
> scp various files from a windows system to a gentoo system, so I do not want
> to be limited to the cygwin installation tree of files. [2]
> 
> I'd be curious what folks on this list recommend, or any other software
> for such interoperability between gentoo and XP/vista systems.
> 
> 
> [1] http://www.openssh.com/windows.html
> [2] http://www.jfitz.com/tips/ssh_for_windows.html#Should_I_use_SSH_or_a_VPN

 Hi,

 Have you ever tried WinSCP? I think that if you just need to copy files,
 it is quite nice. For SSH there is PuTTY. I don't know if these are exactly
 what you want though. They are both listed on your [1] reference.

 WinSCP: http://winscp.net/eng/download.php
 PuTTY:  http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/download.html

 Hope that helps.

 Cheers,

 Guilherme

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: ssh/scp on XP and gentoo

[Mike Williams]

On Thursday 18 October 2007 20:00:51 James wrote:
> I'd like to run ssh/scp on XP and Vista. However there seems to be losts of
> different ideas about how best to do this. [1]. I need to be able to
> selective scp various files from a windows system to a gentoo system, so I
> do not want to be limited to the cygwin installation tree of files. [2]

cygwin doesn't limit you to the cygwin install.
/cygdrive, or something, contains "links" to the windows filesystem.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: ssh/scp on XP and gentoo

[Etaoin Shrdlu]

On Thursday 18 October 2007, James wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'd like to run ssh/scp on XP and Vista. However there seems to be
> losts of different ideas about how best to do this. [1]

It seems to me that those mentioned in that page are only different 
implementations of ssh clients and tools, but not different ideas.

> I need to be able to selective scp various files from a windows system
> to a gentoo system, so I do not want to be limited to the cygwin
> installation tree of files. [2]
>
> I'd be curious what folks on this list recommend, or any other
> software for such interoperability between gentoo and XP/vista
> systems.

I can only speak for XP, since so far I've not had many chances to work 
with vista.
In the past I've used winscp, pscp (from putty), and scp (from 
http://sshwindows.sourceforge.net), and I've never had a problem.

About the more general topic of linux/windows interoperability: you can 
of course use samba to share folders and transfer files. Also, depending 
on your needs and security concerns, even simple plain ftp might be 
suitable.
Using a slightly different approach, you can use rdesktop to log into 
windows and have selected linux drives/directories available inside 
windows (see man rdesktop, the "-r" switch). I find this very handy when 
there is no previous setup between the two boxes, and I don't want to 
set up a full fledged ssh or samba only to transfer some files.

Hope this helps.
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: ssh/scp on XP and gentoo

[Dan Farrell]

On Thu, 18 Oct 2007 19:00:51 +0000 (UTC)
James <wireless@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:

> I'd be curious what folks on this list recommend, or any other
> software for such interoperability between gentoo and XP/vista
> systems.

I, too, highly recommend PuTTY.  It has lots of nice options, and needs
no installation, but rather will happily run straight from download.
It's tiny and fast, and supports telnet, rsh, and some others, as well
as SSH.  The putty people also put out a SCP client, but I didn't much
like it; working from the command line in windows is just so painful. 

I recommend against FTP becuase I find it too inflexible for my needs.
I find the ability to put a file anywhere on the system, and for any
user, without requiring a complete login session, much better.

Finally, if you wish to use Samba you should be able to do so over
vpn.  I have used Samba-over-VPN with much success, and strongly
recommend openVPN for this task.  It doesn't make file transferring any
different, it just puts all the computers on the same network -- making
it that much easier to run these services securely, since they don't
have to listen on external ports.  

		-- Dan Farrell

PS: I bet there's some windoze-side support for rsync these days too.  
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[gentoo-user] Re: OT: ssh/scp on XP and gentoo

[James]

Dan Farrell <dan <at> spore.ath.cx> writes:


> > I'd be curious what folks on this list recommend, or any other
> > software for such interoperability between gentoo and XP/vista
> > systems.

> I, too, highly recommend PuTTY.  It has lots of nice options, and needs
> no installation, but rather will happily run straight from download.
> It's tiny and fast, and supports telnet, rsh, and some others, as well
> as SSH.  The putty people also put out a SCP client, but I didn't much
> like it; working from the command line in windows is just so painful. 


OK,

Lots of feedback. I'm going to try some things and see what I like.

Thanks! to all that responded with information and suggestions. 

James






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