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From: James <wireless@tampabay.rr.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user]  Re: Excessive processor usage
Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 17:36:36 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <loom.20070806T192841-896@post.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 20070806162956.86822e02.hilse@web.de

Hans-Werner Hilse <hilse <at> web.de> writes:

> > If you want to check there is no such program on your system, I
> > advice you to try chkrootkit, to check there is no such rootkit on
> > your system...

> To put it correctly, since there is _NO_ way to assure that there isn't
> a rootkit:

> chkrootkit can be used to check whether there _are_ _known_ rootkits.

> BTW, there are other, similar programs that do the same.
> But my point is: You can never be sure, since a hypothesis can't be
> proven correct, just invalid.


Well you are right and you are wrong.
You are right for noobs.

If the person has a second system and sets up a flat hub and the
ethernet in stealth mode, you can sniff the ethernet I/O all day
long and use a variety of tools to discern if nefarious activities
abound on a given system. Sure it's a bit of work, but all hacked
systems I've ever seen use the system to ethernet I/O.  They can
encrypt that traffic, but if you know what should/not be traversing
the ethernet, there is no way to hide an actively compromised 
system. 

If the hacker scantly uses resources, and is elite, often it's the
best thing for a noob, because they keep the systems in pristine
condition....

building a gentoo based firewall, that runs off of a  non rewritable
media (CD and such) is definitely a good idea, if you want to 
control your resource utilization....


ymmv,
hth,

James



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  parent reply	other threads:[~2007-08-06 17:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 14+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2007-08-06 11:50 [gentoo-user] Excessive processor usage sean
2007-08-06 11:56 ` Xav'
2007-08-06 12:55   ` sean
2007-08-06 13:55     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2007-08-06 14:49       ` sean
2007-08-06 12:03 ` Abraham Marín Pérez
2007-08-06 12:30   ` Xav'
2007-08-06 14:29     ` Hans-Werner Hilse
2007-08-06 14:49       ` sean
2007-08-06 15:14         ` Neil Bothwick
2007-08-06 18:09         ` Uwe Thiem
2007-08-06 18:16           ` Paul
2007-08-06 17:36       ` James [this message]
2007-08-06 12:30 ` Duane Griffin

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