[gentoo-user] installing an amd k6

[gentoo-user] installing an amd k6

[James]

Hello,

After trying every both minimal and liveCD  for 2006.1 with a K6
machine and the various options, such as gentoo-nofb acpi=off
nox and nosmp. NOTHING worked.

So I tried a mininal x86 CD from 2005 with these options:
gentoo-nofb acpi=off nox 
and all it booted to a root promt.... 

I cannot seem to find the corresponding installation instructions, you know

fdisk
 mkreiserfs  /dev/hda2
Mounting the Partions:
mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/gentoo
mkdir /mnt/gentoo/boot
chroot....

for a minimal x86 2006.0 or 2005.* installation?

Going from my (fried-limited-dysfunctional) memory is not really 
a good idea...

I did find the old handbook for 2005, but it was for using
the liveCD...

Anyone have a link to an old copy of a minmal install where
everything is done by hand, chroot, setting up the make.conf,
/etc/resolv.conf..... and then completing the installation
via the internet connection? Something I can download, as 
a rough guide? It seems that 2006.1 has abondoned the (K6)
arch.....

Googling turns up lots of links but not a guide to a minimal install
using an older installatoin CD.

The machine is going to be a minimalistic server, just for DNS.

thoughts and suggestions are most welcome.



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[gentoo-user] Re: installing an amd k6

[James]

Daniel da Veiga <danieldaveiga <at> gmail.com> writes:


> > So I tried a mininal x86 CD from 2005 with these options:
> > gentoo-nofb acpi=off nox
> > and all it booted to a root promt....

> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml

Yes this is OK, but,
I was hoping to find the corresponding version for 2005.0.....

Oh well,

Thanks Daniel...

James





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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: installing an amd k6

[Steve McGrath]

> Yes this is OK, but,
> I was hoping to find the corresponding version for 2005.0.....

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/2005.0/handbook-x86.xml


HTH,
Steve

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[gentoo-user] Re: installing an amd k6

[James]

Daniel da Veiga <danieldaveiga <at> gmail.com> writes:

> http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml

Well this doc does not cover the 'k6' arch. Should I change make.conf
#CFLAGS="-O2 -march=i686 -pipe"
to
CFLAGS="-O2 -march=k6 -pipe"

Also, I was going to use these USE flags:

USE=" -*  hardened pic ncurses ssl crypt berkdb tcpd pam perl python readline"

for the initail bootstap build.

Note I used  stage3-i686-2006.1.tar.bz2
and portage-latest.tar.bz2

Sound reasonable for a K6-200MHz machine that is only
going to be used as a dns secondary server.


James



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: installing an amd k6

[darren kirby]

quoth the James:

>
> Note I used  stage3-i686-2006.1.tar.bz2
> and portage-latest.tar.bz2
>
> Sound reasonable for a K6-200MHz machine that is only
> going to be used as a dns secondary server.

Is the K6 a 686 though? I used to have an old K6 233 and seem to recall not 
being able to install Arch Linux on it because it was a 686 optimized 
distro...

Is there a 586 tarball?

> James

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[gentoo-user] Re: installing an amd k6

[james]

darren kirby <bulliver <at> badcomputer.org> writes:


> > Note I used  stage3-i686-2006.1.tar.bz2
> > and portage-latest.tar.bz2

> Is the K6 a 686 though? I used to have an old K6 233 and seem to recall not 
> being able to install Arch Linux on it because it was a 686 optimized 
> distro...

> Is there a 586 tarball?


Hello Darren,

You must have ESP....
After banging my head around this install for a while, I looked at 
/etc/make.conf.examples:

<snip>

# Please note that if you experience strange issues with a package, it may be
# due to gcc's optimizations interacting in a strange way. Please test the
# package (and in some cases the libraries it uses) at default optimizations
# before reporting errors to developers.
#
# -mcpu=<cpu-type> means optimize code for the particular type of CPU without
# breaking compatibility with other CPUs. GCC 3.4 has deprecated support for
# -mcpu, so use -mtune instead if using this compiler.
#
# -march=<cpu-type> means to take full advantage of the ABI and instructions
# for the particular CPU; this will break compatibility with older CPUs (for
# example, -march=athlon-xp code will not run on a regular Athlon, and
# -march=i686 code will not run on a Pentium Classic.)
#
# CPU types supported in gcc-3.2 and higher: athlon-xp, athlon-mp,
# athlon-tbird, athlon, k6, k6-2, k6-3, i386, i486, i586 (Pentium), i686
# (PentiumPro), pentium, pentium-mmx, pentiumpro, pentium2 (Celeron),
# pentium3, and pentium4.
<end/snip>

So my next question, because googling produces nothing, is 
which arch to use for the k6?

Are you suggesting I use this in my make.conf file?
CFLAGS="-O2 -march=i586 -pipe"
CHOST="i586-pc-linux-gnu"
CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"

????

I've got to find an i586 iso now. 
Do you think 'stage1-x86-2006.1.tar.bz2' might work?
along with portage-latest.tar.bz2 ????

I was hoping to use an iso with glibc2.4, gcc4.1 and make.profile 2006.1

I'm not sure whether I should use a stage 3 or stage 1 tarball?
Ideas?


James



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[gentoo-user] SOLVED Re: installing an amd k6

[James]

Dirk Heinrichs <ext-dirk.heinrichs <at> nokia.com> writes:
>
Hello Dirk,

I posted a resonse early today, but, it never made it..

> > Are you suggesting I use this in my make.conf file?
> > CFLAGS="-O2 -march=i586 -pipe"

> -march=k6 (or even k6-2) is OK, as listed above.

I used this:
CFLAGS="-O2 -march=i586 -pipe"

Because when I untarred the i586 file it was
what was written by default into the make.conf file by:
 stage3-i586-2006.0.tar.bz2 

When booting I gave these options
gentoo-nofb  acpi=no nosmp


> For this type of machine, I'd go with the stage 3. It might recompile some 
> of the packages, depending on your use flags upon next "emerge -DNuvp 
> world/system", baut that's still faster than bootstrapping from stage 1.


I did use the latest portage I could find:
portage-latest.tar.bz2         

The K6 is now compiling a hardened kernel.

Thanks to all, as it was a lot of little things that helped!


James


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