From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1FVSIN-0006h8-U9 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 11:53:32 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.5) with SMTP id k3HBrHsS022500; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 11:53:17 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [134.68.220.30]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.6/8.13.5) with ESMTP id k3HBnA5c003664 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 11:49:10 GMT Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.54) id 1FVSE9-0003Wo-HP for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 11:49:09 +0000 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1FVSE2-00083N-1j for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 13:49:02 +0200 Received: from www.buffer.net ([24.73.161.102]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 13:49:02 +0200 Received: from wireless by www.buffer.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 17 Apr 2006 13:49:02 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: James Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Completness of AVR toolset in dev-embedded? Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2006 11:48:47 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <200604170953.45943.Petr.Kocmid@project-bhairava.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 24.73.161.102 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.12) Gecko/20060303) Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: b10c6f59-36b9-4ebd-b35e-490b81d12adc X-Archives-Hash: 07ebaf2455a6ea801b4c338302da311f Petr Kocmid project-bhairava.org> writes: > I wander, what's the point of having (noncompilable) dev-embedded/avr-libc in > portage when there is no avr-gcc nor avr-binutils? No good reason for this.... > However, I found some overlay ebuilds for avr toolset at > http://gentoo.zugaina.org/erazor-zone/dev-embedded.html.en > going to try it. Well, in my experience with Gentoo, what's available in portage, is a function of what the 'devs' are interested in. Indeed every packages in portage needs an evangelist to keep it current and correctly patched. It seems that none of the devs are much interested in firmware, assembler, (8-16) bit micro-Controllers and many things related to embedded software development. The answer is to find an embedded person that can 'get qualified' as a dev thereby supporting the needs of the firmware community, in my opinion. It's a *DAM SHAM* Micro-Controllers, state machines and minimal executives are the heart of where electronics meet computer science. I often used Debian, as it seem to much more agressive in supporting the needs of the embedded communities.... Other gravitate to LFS (linux from scratch) or other distros that are more interested in supporting the needs of the embedded communities. There is a gentoo-embedded group, but it seems to be limited to x86 and PPC architectures. If I'm really desperate, I look at bugs.gentoo.org to find folks that have posted bugs, revision update requests, and such and send them email directly for ideas, and patched software builds. 'Portage Overlay' is often used when a person, with embedded tendencies, attempts to create/hack an ebuild for the greater embedded community. We are orphans with Gentoo. YMMV (peace to all) James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list