[gentoo-user] Further probs/phenomena

[gentoo-user] Further probs/phenomena

[Meino Christian Cramer]

Hi,

 another thing I am currently not able to understand:
 In search of a dvb-t tv watching applikation I found kaffeine (as far
 as I know not supoorted by Gentoo).

 Kaffeine needs the xine-libs, which in turn are part of gentoo.

 So I installed the xine-libs and the xine-ui.

 Then I compiled kaffeine and installed it also.

 Right after I started that beast everything works fine (after
 correcting the perms of some related files in /dev/. ...)

 A second start of kaffeine files with this on my terminal:

 Script started on Sun Mar 26 22:38:16 2006
solfire:/home/mccramer>kaffeine
kbuildsycoca running...
/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend0 : opened ( Zarlink MT352 DVB-T )
/dev/dvb/adapter0/frontend1 : : No such file or directory
/dev/dvb/adapter1/frontend0 : : No such file or directory
QLayout "unnamed" added to QWidget "unnamed", which already has a layout
solfire:/home/mccramer>Tuning to: VOX / autocount: 0
Using DVB device 0:0 "Zarlink MT352 DVB-T"
tuning DVB-T to 498000000 Hz
inv:2 bw:0 fecH:2 fecL:9 mod:1 tm:1 gi:3 hier:0
.. LOCKED.
NOUT: 1
dvbEvents 0:0 started
Tuning delay: 210 ms
kaffeine: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/xine/plugins/1.1.1/xineplug_decode_ff.so: undefined symbol: pp_get_context
X Error: BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
  Major opcode:  7
  Minor opcode:  0
  Resource id:  0x14001d6

solfire:/home/mccramer>

Script done on Sun Mar 26 22:38:42 2006


I reinstalled xine-libs, started kaffeine...works!

Quit kaffeine, start kaffeine again....the same scenario as described
above.

Any idea, what goes wrong here ? Especially, cause kaffeine is started
under user permissions, I could not understand, how this could change
/any/ file outside my $HOME. On the other hand: reinstalling xine-lib
will not change anything in my $HOME...

So what is the crazy logic behind this problem ?

Thank you very much in advance for any helpful reply ! :O)

Keep hacking!
mcc

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Re: [gentoo-user] Further probs/phenomena

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 22:51:00 +0200 (CEST), Meino Christian Cramer wrote:

>  In search of a dvb-t tv watching applikation I found kaffeine (as far
>  as I know not supoorted by Gentoo).

* media-video/kaffeine
     Available versions:  0.7.1 0.7.1-r1 0.8
     Installed:           0.8
     Homepage:            http://kaffeine.sourceforge.net/
     Description:         Media player for KDE using xine and gstreamer backends.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Further probs/phenomena

[Meino Christian Cramer]

From: Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Further probs/phenomena
Date: Sun, 26 Mar 2006 23:23:07 +0100

Hi Neil,

 yes, but dvb (which I need for dvb-t tv watching) is switched off vie
 USE.

 I installed it via emerge and 'export USE="dvb"' with the described
 effect.

 The problem remains unchanged....

 Keep hacking!
 mcc

> On Sun, 26 Mar 2006 22:51:00 +0200 (CEST), Meino Christian Cramer wrote:
> 
> >  In search of a dvb-t tv watching applikation I found kaffeine (as far
> >  as I know not supoorted by Gentoo).
> 
> * media-video/kaffeine
>      Available versions:  0.7.1 0.7.1-r1 0.8
>      Installed:           0.8
>      Homepage:            http://kaffeine.sourceforge.net/
>      Description:         Media player for KDE using xine and gstreamer backends.
> 
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Further probs/phenomena

[Uwe Thiem]

On 26 March 2006 22:51, Meino Christian Cramer wrote:
> Hi,
>
>  another thing I am currently not able to understand:
>  In search of a dvb-t tv watching applikation I found kaffeine (as far
>  as I know not supoorted by Gentoo).

Pardon?

uwix uwe # emerge --pretend --verbose kaffeine


These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ] media-video/kaffeine-0.7.1-r1  USE="arts gstreamer -debug -dvb 
-xinerama" 0 kB

Uwe

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Re: [gentoo-user] Further probs/phenomena

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 06:43:04 +0200 (CEST), Meino Christian Cramer wrote:

>  yes, but dvb (which I need for dvb-t tv watching) is switched off vie
>  USE.
> 
>  I installed it via emerge and 'export USE="dvb"' with the described
>  effect.

Don't export USE, it can cause unpredictable side effects.

USE="dvb" causes Kaffeine to be built with --with-dvb, so whatever issues
you are seeing, they don't appear to be due to the way portage is
handling the package.

PS Please don't cc your reply, I read the list and one copy of the mail
is fine.


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[gentoo-user] Re: Further probs/phenomena

[james]

Uwe Thiem <uwix <at> iway.na> writes:


> >  another thing I am currently not able to understand:
> >  In search of a dvb-t tv watching applikation I found kaffeine (as far
> >  as I know not supoorted by Gentoo).

> Pardon?


> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild   R   ] media-video/kaffeine-0.7.1-r1  USE="arts gstreamer -debug -dvb 
> -xinerama" 0 kB

I put this entry in my /etc/portage/package.keywords:

media-video/kaffeine            ~x86

and got this version of kaffeine working:
 media-video/kaffeine-0.8-r1  +arts -debug -dvb +encode +gstreamer +vorbis -xinerama

If you use dvb, make sure you enable it in the kernel....

hth,

James



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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Further probs/phenomena

[Meino Christian Cramer]

From: james <wireless@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Further probs/phenomena
Date: Mon, 27 Mar 2006 16:10:01 +0000 (UTC)

Hi,

 thank you for your help.

 My previous system was an LFS one, from which I took the complete
 configuration of the linux kernel. That's why I took a vanilla kernel
 for gentoo (by the way: Why is it named "vanilla" for such kind of
 things an not -- say -- straciatella, schoco, walnut or even tutti
 frutti :O)

 As I am right at the beginning with my understanding and knowledge
 about the gentoo system, I would like to know, what this "~86" in
 /etc/portage/package.keywords does.

 Is it advebtureous to do so, or is it just a good working tuning
 thing for x86 systems ?

 Anbother question: Is there a documentation of the _installed_ gentoo
 system -- not the installing process as such?

 Have a nice week!

 Keep hacking!
 mcc 



> Uwe Thiem <uwix <at> iway.na> writes:
> 
> 
> > >  another thing I am currently not able to understand:
> > >  In search of a dvb-t tv watching applikation I found kaffeine (as far
> > >  as I know not supoorted by Gentoo).
> 
> > Pardon?
> 
> 
> > Calculating dependencies... done!
> > [ebuild   R   ] media-video/kaffeine-0.7.1-r1  USE="arts gstreamer -debug -dvb 
> > -xinerama" 0 kB
> 
> I put this entry in my /etc/portage/package.keywords:
> 
> media-video/kaffeine            ~x86
> 
> and got this version of kaffeine working:
>  media-video/kaffeine-0.8-r1  +arts -debug -dvb +encode +gstreamer +vorbis -xinerama
> 
> If you use dvb, make sure you enable it in the kernel....
> 
> hth,
> 
> James
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Further probs/phenomena

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

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On Monday 27 March 2006 11:18, Meino Christian Cramer <Meino.Cramer@gmx.de> 
wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Further probs/phenomena':
>  My previous system was an LFS one, from which I took the complete
>  configuration of the linux kernel. That's why I took a vanilla kernel
>  for gentoo (by the way: Why is it named "vanilla" for such kind of
>  things an not -- say -- straciatella, schoco, walnut or even tutti
>  frutti :O)

In U.S. English, "vanilla" has connotation of plain, despite being just as 
much of an added flavor as strawberry or chocolate.  

I'm not sure exactly where that connotation came from, but when Americans 
talk about different "flavors" of an item (anything from software to cars 
to ice cream) the one with the fewest features/modifications -- the 
least "flavorful" -- is referred to as vanilla.

I'm not sure if this connotation extends beyond the U.S. border.  Heck I 
don't even know if it's universal across the U.S., but everyone 
understands it where I live.

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it's that the vast majority of our users don't have the slightest
clue what's best for them in terms of package stability."
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[gentoo-user] Re: Further probs/phenomena

[James]

Meino Christian Cramer <Meino.Cramer <at> gmx.de> writes:


>  As I am right at the beginning with my understanding and knowledge
>  about the gentoo system, I would like to know, what this "~86" in
>  /etc/portage/package.keywords does.


Well, I'm not the quintessential gentoo user, but, I'll give
you some simple advise. ~x86 means for the package listed you
are willing to install the testing version of the software.
The 3 flavors of linux software are stable, testing, and unstable
(or under active development).



>  Is it advebtureous to do so, or is it just a good working tuning
>  thing for x86 systems ?

Ah here you leave the ground of objective answers into the realm of the
subjective, as such, I can only give you my opinion. YES. I mostly
rund stable on my sytems and use the files in /etc/portage, when I 
choose to venture out. You could have your entire gentoo system
as ~x86 (testing) as some folks to, and fix the problems. If this is
your first or only gentoo system, having ~x86 for everything is suicide
and will result in your looking for another linux distro. Using ~x86
to gain access to those key software packages, when necessary or
desired, is warranted.

> 
>  Anbother question: Is there a documentation of the _installed_ gentoo
>  system -- not the installing process as such?
 
on google use searches such as these:

subject +gentoo +wiki +howto  (etc) and you'll find a multitude
of documentation. After you have read, and given a reasonable attempt
to figure things out, and fail, then you post to this list. There
are numerous folks with various skill levels that read this list,
and most try to help, particularly those that have attemmpted self-help
first. Here are a few bookmarks:

http://www.gentoo.org/dyn/use-index.xml
http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_USE_Flags
http://gentoo-wiki.com/Portage_Overlay_Listing
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=3
http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Dealing_with_masked_packages

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2&chap=2
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2&chap=1
http://gentoo-wiki.com/Category:Tips
http://clug.net.nz/index.php/GentooTips
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=33534

http://gentoo.linuxhowtos.org/browseportage/browseportage.htm?portagecat=www-apps/trac

http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Use_Portage_Correctly

hth,

James

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