From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from lists.gentoo.org ([140.105.134.102] helo=robin.gentoo.org) by nuthatch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DsQWG-00048z-UX for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 19:34:17 +0000 Received: from robin.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with SMTP id j6CJWIp0017002; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 19:32:18 GMT Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [134.68.220.30]) by robin.gentoo.org (8.13.4/8.13.4) with ESMTP id j6CJQaW0004858 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 19:26:36 GMT Received: from main.gmane.org ([80.91.229.2] helo=ciao.gmane.org) by smtp.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DsQPg-00053f-OO for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 19:27:29 +0000 Received: from list by ciao.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.43) id 1DsQON-0001zh-IE for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 21:26:07 +0200 Received: from www.buffer.net ([24.73.161.102]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 21:26:07 +0200 Received: from wireless by www.buffer.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 12 Jul 2005 21:26:07 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: James Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: rsync internal mirror configuration Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2005 19:24:45 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <006201c586ff$ed563700$5f01010a@jnetlab.lcl> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org User-Agent: Loom/3.14 (http://gmane.org/) X-Loom-IP: 24.73.161.102 (Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.7.8) Gecko/20050517) Sender: news X-Archives-Salt: 9dfdf04a-db32-46ba-bb68-24e497d80abd X-Archives-Hash: 1334b29293deb62ed379dd6be9075c53 Dave Nebinger joat.com> writes: Thanks for the scripts and help! > > I'll take this under consideration. My purpose in extending automated > > updates, is to be able to manage a large number of embedded gentoo > > devices in the future. Roll-back and Recovery mechanism will be > > added later. Besides Gentoo needs to leave the laboratory > > (purvey of experts) and enter the world of normal humanoids. That will > > force the Gentoo community to make Gentoo a commodity technology for > > the world's normal folks.....gentoo's destiny in my opinion. > Oh, I'd tend to disagree. Source-based distributions IMHO would be a huge > pain in the neck for those responsible for a large number of systems. Twer > it up to me I'd be using a binary-based distro such as suse or redhat; let > them work out the kinks so I wouldn't have to. > I prefer running gentoo because I have total control over the box. Downtime > at home simply means I can't surf or receive email; it also means that I > have some good old down and dirty work ahead to get the box back up, which I > enjoy. It's also a hassle that only I have to deal with, not a whole floor > of workers sitting idle waiting for the problem to be resolved. > But to be an admin over an office full of gentoo systems? Not sure I'd like > that or that they would pay me what it would take to keep it functional. > Unless, of course, all systems were exactly the same (hardware and software > installations) and the users had minimal permissions to the systems (i.e. > they could only write files to their home directories and nowhere else on > the system, including /tmp & /var/tmp). Well, I do not think we disagree at all. I'm ramping up to support 5-15 gentoo user systems, to get some experience. My real goal is to learn gentoo at a deeper level. When I roll out a new TCP/IP based data-logger (hopefully this fall) it'll take sensor inputs and control a few outputs. No humans will use the devices for anything other than interfacing sensors and collecting data. The experience I gain form helping kids/adults use Gentoo, will help me manage thousands of dataloggers across public and private networks. Besides if I screw it up, no big deal. They can always use a winblows box until I get it fixed. Strict user control semantics will be used to limit what they can screw up. I'm also using jffnms to update and manage all sorts of routers and industrial contols embedded devices. After some time, I'm sure I'll roll my own solution, but for now, managing Gentoo user systems and customizing JFFNMS for router and other snmp devices is enough of to keep me busy. Thanks again for all of your help! sincerely, James Horton -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list