From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64CB213877A for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 17:40:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id DE5A6E0CC9; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 17:39:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB5B2E0BAA for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 17:39:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0FBB734003C for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 17:39:46 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.993 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.993 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-2.183, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=1.2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id umxwU1nNja0Z for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 17:39:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B48E1340017 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 17:39:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1X0De0-0001HN-Ba for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 19:39:32 +0200 Received: from dsl.comtrol.com ([64.122.56.22]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 19:39:32 +0200 Received: from grant.b.edwards by dsl.comtrol.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 26 Jun 2014 19:39:32 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: Grant Edwards Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: smartctrl drive error @60% Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2014 17:39:10 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <53AA050F.4070907@gmail.com> <53AAF0CB.4060902@gmail.com> <20140625170952.3f3250c8@hactar.digimed.co.uk> <201406251745.06064.michaelkintzios@gmail.com> <20140625182940.5e6e4adf@hactar.digimed.co.uk> <53AB4A31.3030104@gmail.com> X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: dsl.comtrol.com User-Agent: slrn/1.0.1 (Linux) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Archives-Salt: 2d1232ce-8c68-4977-9dd5-004fbd07a3d5 X-Archives-Hash: c0aadd9aefe9aca9c85339a8f13d441f On 2014-06-25, Dale wrote: > I have to say, I dread setting up a mail server about as bad as I dread > going to the Doctor. It's just something I really don't want to add to > my system unless I have to. It's sort of like the init thingy. I don't > want to add something else that will eventually break and I'll have to > fix. The mail system won't keep me from booting but it is just one more > thing to keep a eye on and make sure it is working. So, making sure the > mail system is working will likely take up the same amount of time that > checking the drive manually every month or so will take. I think you are _vastly_ overestimating the amount of effort required to install and set up something like msmtp. It's completely trivial compared to setting up sendmail (or even postfix). If you know the name of your ISP's smtp server along with the username and password, it doesn't take more than a minute or two to set up. And it just doesn't break (unless you change the password and forget to update the msmtp config file). -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards Yow! I'm having a at quadrophonic sensation gmail.com of two winos alone in a steel mill!