[gentoo-user] HP printing query

[gentoo-user] HP printing query

[Philip Webb]

I ran into a problem trying to print yesterday -- solved for now -- ,
but would like to simplify things for the next occasion.

What appears to have happened is that when I updated Hplip + Cups,
one of them created a new printer, so that the list now appears as :

  Deskjet_2510	Automatically setup by HPLIP
   HP Deskjet 2510 Series hpijs, 3.13.9  Paused - "Filter failed"
  Deskjet_2510_2  Deskjet_2510_2
   HP Deskjet 2510 Series hpijs, 3.13.9	 Idle

I had the Vim plug-in 'prtdialog' + Kwrite + LO set to use the former,
but needed to change them all to the latter to get the printer to respond.

Is this something I have to allow for whenever I update those pkgs ?
I can delete the old one as root, but can I rename the new one ?

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[gentoo-user] Re: HP printing query

[walt]

On 04/15/2014 04:07 PM, Philip Webb wrote:
> I ran into a problem trying to print yesterday -- solved for now -- ,
> but would like to simplify things for the next occasion.
> 
> What appears to have happened is that when I updated Hplip + Cups,
> one of them created a new printer, so that the list now appears as :
> 
>   Deskjet_2510	Automatically setup by HPLIP
>    HP Deskjet 2510 Series hpijs, 3.13.9  Paused - "Filter failed"
>   Deskjet_2510_2  Deskjet_2510_2
>    HP Deskjet 2510 Series hpijs, 3.13.9	 Idle
> 
> I had the Vim plug-in 'prtdialog' + Kwrite + LO set to use the former,
> but needed to change them all to the latter to get the printer to respond.
> 
> Is this something I have to allow for whenever I update those pkgs ?
> I can delete the old one as root, but can I rename the new one ?

From years of frustrating bug-hunting I've learned that I need to delete
and re-create my cups printers each and every time I update cups.

I always reinstall my printer(s) with hp-setup, not with any cups tools.
That routine may not be necessary but it's always been sufficient :)

Re: [gentoo-user] HP printing query

[Daniel Pielmeier]

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Philip Webb schrieb am 16.04.2014 01:07:
> I ran into a problem trying to print yesterday -- solved for now -- ,
> but would like to simplify things for the next occasion.
> 
> What appears to have happened is that when I updated Hplip + Cups,
> one of them created a new printer, so that the list now appears as :
> 
>   Deskjet_2510	Automatically setup by HPLIP
>    HP Deskjet 2510 Series hpijs, 3.13.9  Paused - "Filter failed"
>   Deskjet_2510_2  Deskjet_2510_2
>    HP Deskjet 2510 Series hpijs, 3.13.9	 Idle
> 
> I had the Vim plug-in 'prtdialog' + Kwrite + LO set to use the former,
> but needed to change them all to the latter to get the printer to respond.
> 
> Is this something I have to allow for whenever I update those pkgs ?
> I can delete the old one as root, but can I rename the new one ?
> 


Just for your information I have removed the auto-configuration [1] of
hplip printers done by udev rules. There was as well an upgrade and an
uninstall tool which I have removed as well. This are things which
should be done by the user/admin.

As mentioned on the wiki page for hplip [2] at every upgrade the
recommended action is to delete all print queues and recreate them
again, either with hp-setup or the cups web interface.


[1] *hplip-3.14.3 (07 Mar 2014)

  07 Mar 2014; Daniel Pielmeier <billie@gentoo.org> +hplip-3.14.3.ebuild:
  Version bump. This version adds a patch which removes the update and
  uninstall python scripts as well as the auto-configuration/plug-in
  installation related stuff from the udev rules. This should fix Gentoo bug
  #434830 (Upstream bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/hplip/+bug/1080353).


[2] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/HPLIP

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Daniel Pielmeier


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[gentoo-user] HP printing query

[Philip Webb]

140417 Daniel Pielmeier wrote:
> Philip Webb schrieb am 16.04.2014 01:07:
>> I ran into a problem trying to print yesterday -- solved for now -- ,
>> but would like to simplify things for the next occasion.
>> What appears to have happened is that when I updated Hplip + Cups,
>> one of them created a new printer, so that the list now appears as :
>>   Deskjet_2510	Automatically setup by HPLIP
>>    HP Deskjet 2510 Series hpijs, 3.13.9  Paused - "Filter failed"
>>   Deskjet_2510_2  Deskjet_2510_2
>>    HP Deskjet 2510 Series hpijs, 3.13.9	 Idle
>> I had the Vim plug-in 'prtdialog' + Kwrite + LO set to use the former,
>> but needed to change them all to the latter to get the printer to respond.
> I have removed the auto-configuration [1] of hplip printers
> done by udev rules. There was an upgrade and an uninstall tool
> which I have removed as well. These should be done by the user/admin.
> As mentioned on the wiki page for hplip [2], at every upgrade
> the recommended action is to delete all print queues
> and recreate them again either with hp-setup or the cups web interface.
> [1] *hplip-3.14.3 (07 Mar 2014)
>   07 Mar 2014; Daniel Pielmeier <billie@gentoo.org> +hplip-3.14.3.ebuild:
>   Version bump. This version adds a patch which removes the update and
>   uninstall python scripts as well as the auto-configuration/plug-in
>   installation related stuff from the udev rules. This should fix Gentoo bug
>   #434830 (Upstream bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/hplip/+bug/1080353).
> [2] https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/HPLIP

Thanks : this change appears to have eliminated the problem.

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[gentoo-user] Re: HP printing query

[James]

Philip Webb <purslow <at> ca.inter.net> writes:


> I ran into a problem trying to print yesterday -- solved for now -- ,
> but would like to simplify things for the next occasion.
> What appears to have happened is that when I updated Hplip + Cups,
> one of them created a new printer, so that the list now appears as :

In my experiences with Cups over the years, it's flaky setup issues are
always different. So what I do is backup all of the config files in
/etc/cups. After an upgrade, you may have to set up printers again.
What I find, after diffing old config file with new ones, is each
new version of cups screws up one or more of the config files, or forgets
to keep options you have set or whatever you have not seen before as a cups
config problem. The cups team is very diligent at creating new issues, while
addressing old ones, imho. So I just manually look at the old config
files, fix/enhance what I want and restart cupsd.

Cups hacking is different every time, imho. I often just copy printer
config files from /etc/cups to other machines and manually edit therein.
Easy, quick and mostly fool_proof. Occasionally there is actually something
new in cups, but it has mostly been the external (web-gui) interfaces
and not the underlying options; mostly. A working config file, is usually
good for years and years; mostly.


hth,
James