From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DE4F31381F3 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 00:32:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 91142E0955; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 00:31:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7114EE0933 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 00:31:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 92E7D33E2D2 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 00:31:47 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -0.997 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.997 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-2.072, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=1.2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.125, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id NKVWsBPuWnzo for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 00:31:39 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0D47A33E2F4 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 00:31:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1UmCUl-0007kz-B8 for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 02:31:31 +0200 Received: from adsl-69-234-189-153.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net ([69.234.189.153]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 02:31:31 +0200 Received: from w41ter by adsl-69-234-189-153.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 11 Jun 2013 02:31:31 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: walt Subject: [gentoo-user] [OT] Recent git kernels break rtc (real-time-clock) Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2013 17:31:08 -0700 Message-ID: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-69-234-189-153.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:17.0) Gecko/20130509 Thunderbird/17.0.6 X-Archives-Salt: f4e03e76-4642-468a-a4a4-7f8be7758081 X-Archives-Hash: e9e1534d96f60dade490b3c7907cb53f After the recent 3.9 --> 3.10 kernel merge window, udev no longer creates /dev/rtc (or /dev/rtc0) during bootup on my ~amd64 machines. (The only machines I have now.) So, I have two idle (very non-urgent) questions for you git-kernel nerds out there (I know you're there ;) First, anyone else seeing the same breakage? Second, anyone understand how udev knows if I do, or don't, have a real time clock on my machine? (BTW, I didn't even notice that /dev/rtc is missing for a week or two because the error messages zip by so fast, and nothing seems broken because of it, other than /sbin/hwclock whining quietly.)