From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D03911381F3 for ; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 18:19:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2B3AB21C025; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 18:18:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA75921C010 for ; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 18:17:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C10DC33DA5D for ; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 18:17:29 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: 0.245 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=0.245 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.945, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=1.2, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [IPv6:::ffff:127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 0bdaLMC5Ud-U for ; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 18:17:24 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 357A333DA57 for ; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 18:17:23 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1TnCad-00043v-EP for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 19:17:27 +0100 Received: from c-24-118-110-103.hsd1.mn.comcast.net ([24.118.110.103]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 19:17:27 +0100 Received: from grant.b.edwards by c-24-118-110-103.hsd1.mn.comcast.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 24 Dec 2012 19:17:27 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: Grant Edwards Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: android and mtp Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 18:17:00 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <20121221195656.217987ce@acme7.acmenet> <20121221232036.6df0fd1f@digimed.co.uk> <20121222100137.2a21405c@acme7.acmenet> <20121222141512.2c2dbfef@khamul.example.com> <20121222104942.5d73d1ad@acme7.acmenet> <20121222171337.101b2370@khamul.example.com> <20121223101737.35875712@acme7.acmenet> <50D7E014.2040603@nileshgr.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: c-24-118-110-103.hsd1.mn.comcast.net User-Agent: slrn/0.9.9p1 (Linux) X-Archives-Salt: 6b1ef751-4d05-48d2-a088-dbe19a4c1ef7 X-Archives-Hash: 35de78a5eb546e83c8258be5912c6bdb On 2012-12-24, Nilesh Govindrajan wrote: > On Monday 24 December 2012 09:24:16 AM IST, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2012-12-23, luis jure wrote: >>> on 2012-12-22 at 17:13 Alan McKinnon wrote: >>> >>>> Now, imagine you are the guy at Samsung deciding what features the S2 >>>> will support. Which option you gonna pick? >>> >>> yeah, you're right, i guess. but for once i'd like the guys at the >>> corporations to think like me, and not to be forced to think like >>> them... >> >> I'm glad they chose MTP: I want my phone to continue to work while I'm >> transferring files. In order to mount the filesystem via USB, the >> phone would have to unmount it (which means it's nothing but a flash >> drive). In order to mount the filesystem via USB, it also means >> they'd be forced to use VFAT for the Linux root filesystem, and that >> sucks bad. >> > > They still use VFAT for the so called sdcard (my Xperia S has internal > storage, not extensible). That's understandable. But for phones with only a single flash device (like my Nexus Galaxy), using MTP is the only sensical thing to do. If you want to access only the SD card, then VFAT and USB mass storage works (well, it works as well as VFAT allows). -- Grant