From: Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd? [ Was: The End Is Near ... ]
Date: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 04:12:30 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <jk3gam$ljm$1@dough.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CADPrc80qcOhyQy8SPmpYbp8vrO6y_H2hg6x594fjoub7hWEvkg@mail.gmail.com>
On 18/03/12 03:45, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 6:48 PM, Nikos Chantziaras<realnc@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 17/03/12 13:53, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello, Nikos.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 08:25:48AM +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Happy Computer Users, systemd is on your horizon.
>>>
>>>
>>>> No, we don't. I hope systemd arrives soon. It's the best init system I
>>>> ever saw.
>>>
>>>
>>> What's so good about it? What will it do for me?
>>>
>>> I have this horrible sneaking suspicion that it will be more complicated
>>> than /sbin/init + OpenRC, just like udev + initramfs is more complicated
>>> than udev, and CUPS is more complicated than classical lpr.
>>>
>>> Why do you find it so good?
>>
>>
>> No idea. I only posted this because the OP didn't say what's bad about
>> systemd :-) I really don't know I should care whether my system runs OpenRC
>> or systemd.
>
> Take this with a grain (or a kilo) of salt, since I'm obviously
> biased, but IMHO this are systemd advantages over OpenRC:
>
>[...]
> * It tries to unify Linux behaviour among distros (some can argue that
> this is a bad thing): Using systemd, the same
> configurations/techniques work the same in every distribution. No more
> need to learn /etc/conf.d, /etc/sysconfig, /etc/default hacks by
> different distros.
Out of the things you listed, this strikes me as the most important.
Linux really needs standards. When I install software on Windows, it
knows how to add its startup services. On Linux, this is all manual
work if your distro isn't supported, especially on Gentoo. If there's
no ebuild for it, you spend your whole day trying to make it work.
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2012-03-17 4:11 [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way! Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-17 4:19 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-17 4:37 ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-17 4:53 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-17 5:19 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-17 6:25 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2012-03-17 11:53 ` [gentoo-user] systemd? [ Was: The End Is Near ... ] Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-18 0:48 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2012-03-18 1:45 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-18 2:12 ` Nikos Chantziaras [this message]
2012-03-18 2:41 ` Joshua Murphy
2012-03-18 2:52 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-18 2:20 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-18 2:30 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-18 3:02 ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-18 3:27 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-18 8:02 ` Graham Murray
2012-03-18 8:49 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-18 11:23 ` Pandu Poluan
2012-03-18 19:25 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-18 19:48 ` Michael Mol
2012-03-18 19:54 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-18 19:59 ` Frank Steinmetzger
2012-03-19 13:33 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-19 13:57 ` Michael Mol
2012-03-18 13:15 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-18 13:56 ` Dale
2012-03-18 22:23 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-18 22:35 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-19 22:58 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-19 23:18 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-21 4:40 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-21 14:29 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-21 16:02 ` Michael Mol
2012-03-21 22:55 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-22 1:35 ` Michael Mol
2012-03-22 21:13 ` Walter Dnes
2012-03-22 22:07 ` Mike Edenfield
2012-03-23 1:27 ` Michael Mol
2012-03-29 6:52 ` J. Roeleveld
2012-03-19 13:30 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-18 2:48 ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-18 2:57 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-18 4:17 ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-18 7:28 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-19 13:20 ` Eliezer Croitoru
2012-03-19 13:49 ` Alex Schuster
2012-03-19 13:13 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-19 14:33 ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-19 23:11 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-17 8:00 ` [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way! Andrea Conti
2012-03-17 12:03 ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-19 13:17 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-19 13:27 ` Mark Knecht
2012-03-19 23:04 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-19 23:33 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-19 23:49 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-20 1:13 ` wdk@moriah
2012-03-20 8:41 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-17 11:59 ` Alan Mackenzie
2012-03-17 12:05 ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-17 12:50 ` Tanstaafl
2012-03-17 12:54 ` Eliezer Croitoru
2012-03-17 14:03 ` Peter Humphrey
2012-03-18 9:52 ` Dale
2012-03-18 18:01 ` Eliezer Croitoru
2012-03-18 20:39 ` Dale
2012-03-18 22:28 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-19 0:30 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-19 2:03 ` William Kenworthy
2012-03-19 13:40 ` Eliezer Croitoru
2012-03-19 13:56 ` Alex Schuster
2012-03-29 9:35 ` [gentoo-user] chicken/eff issue with suspend-to-disk/hibernate problem [Was: The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!] J. Roeleveld
2012-03-29 10:40 ` wdk@moriah
2012-03-29 13:51 ` J. Roeleveld
2012-03-29 14:04 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-29 23:05 ` wdk@moriah
2012-03-18 17:30 ` [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way! Tanstaafl
2012-03-17 14:08 ` Jarry
2012-03-19 13:25 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-17 15:10 ` Mark Knecht
2012-03-17 17:36 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2012-03-17 17:58 ` Mark Knecht
2012-03-17 18:38 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-03-17 19:40 ` pk
2012-03-17 20:09 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-03-17 20:28 ` pk
2012-03-18 9:51 ` Dale
2012-03-18 13:03 ` Alan McKinnon
2012-03-18 13:52 ` Dale
2012-03-19 13:22 ` Neil Bothwick
2012-03-18 11:44 ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2012-03-17 20:15 ` [gentoo-user] " Alan McKinnon
2012-03-18 0:43 ` Mark Knecht
2012-03-18 2:18 ` William Kenworthy
2012-03-18 3:57 ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-18 6:30 ` Michael Mol
2012-03-18 7:26 ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-18 7:54 ` Michael Mol
2012-03-18 12:01 ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-18 12:47 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-03-18 13:23 ` Bruce Hill, Jr.
2012-03-18 14:08 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2012-03-18 13:29 ` Mark Knecht
2012-03-18 17:38 ` Tanstaafl
2012-03-29 9:48 ` J. Roeleveld
2012-03-18 13:27 ` Mark Knecht
2012-03-17 23:02 ` [gentoo-user] " »Q«
2012-03-18 8:16 ` [gentoo-user] " Walter Dnes
2012-03-19 9:48 ` Helmut Jarausch
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