From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1S1Jat-0003Ss-Vc for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 15:31:32 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8DAE7E0C52; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 15:31:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 44999E0C06 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 15:30:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C507A1B402C for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 15:30:19 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.365 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.365 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.454, BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, FSL_RCVD_USER=1, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001, T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id DbHKssAFsRON for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 15:30:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from plane.gmane.org (plane.gmane.org [80.91.229.3]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BF2841B4010 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 15:30:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1S1JZT-000783-LJ for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 16:30:03 +0100 Received: from athedsl-354027.home.otenet.gr ([85.72.238.137]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 16:30:03 +0100 Received: from realnc by athedsl-354027.home.otenet.gr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sat, 25 Feb 2012 16:30:03 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: Nikos Chantziaras Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: No more FLASH on Linux ? Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2012 17:27:08 +0200 Organization: Lucas Barks Message-ID: References: <20120224032218.GA3269@ca.inter.net> <4F4719FD.1080400@coolmail.se> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: athedsl-354027.home.otenet.gr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.1) Gecko/20120213 Thunderbird/10.0.1 In-Reply-To: X-Archives-Salt: 3c0f0357-736f-47cf-acfa-62cd4650e3fe X-Archives-Hash: 845a2d1e47166a0ebcae553c49145852 On 25/02/12 16:48, Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2012-02-25, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >> On 24/02/12 17:35, Grant Edwards wrote: >>> On 2012-02-24, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >>>> On 24/02/12 07:02, pk wrote: >>>>> On 2012-02-24 05:15, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> user can watch. Flash on the other hand guarantees web designers that a >>>>>> PC user can watch their videos. Having a guarantee that something works >>>>>> is a very powerful incentive; you do not abandon something that works. >>>>> >>>>> It's only guaranteed if flash is installed. HTML5 is pretty much >>>>> "guaranteed" with current browsers. >>>> >>>> Flash has about 95% coverage. >>>> That means virtually everyone has it installed. >>> >>> That's hard to believe. The number of iPads and and iPhones out there >>> is getting pretty high, and they don't have flash and never will. >> >> In PCs, not other machines. > > Why the restriction to PCs? Web designers and website owners don't > care about PCs. They care about browsers and eyballs. PC users have browsers. 95% of those browsers have Flash. I think this is pretty easy to understand. Perhaps it's a language barrier and I have trouble expressing myself clearly?