From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Rc785-0001ik-9D for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 03:09:37 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 65FB421C080; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 03:09:20 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 72D5C21C080 for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 03:08:14 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D6B7E1B4002 for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 03:08:13 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.937 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.937 tagged_above=-999 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.128, BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=1.164, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-2.229, SPF_HELO_PASS=-0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=no Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id kgspDrU9Ni13 for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 03:08:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 84EC81B4001 for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 03:08:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Rc76Y-0004jl-5g for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 04:08:02 +0100 Received: from 68.168.167.182 ([68.168.167.182]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 04:08:02 +0100 Received: from grant.b.edwards by 68.168.167.182 with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2011 04:08:02 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: Grant Edwards Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: DVD Movie backups Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 03:07:50 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <20111217022540.GB15778@grusum.endjinn.de> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.168.167.182 User-Agent: slrn/0.9.9p1 (Linux) X-Archives-Salt: b6cafb48-b75a-4818-8c3d-cb3483e039e6 X-Archives-Hash: 8d5257d5bc51337e63cc7e726465c55f On 2011-12-17, Stroller wrote: > > On 17 December 2011, at 20:39, Grant Edwards wrote: >> On 2011-12-17, David Haller wrote: >> >>>> Store these on a Samba share, then use something like the PlayOn HD >>>> Mini or the Western Digital TV Live! to watch them on your big screen >>>> TV. >>>> >>>> These players allow you to treat .iso files on the network just as if >>>> they were actual DVDs and give you full access to the menus and extra >>>> features. >>> >>> At least mplayer, vlc and xine will also happily play a directory, be >>> it a mounted DVD, a mounted image or just a rip as made by dvdbackup >>> and others (e.g. lxdvdrip). >> >> The SageTv set-top box will happily play a DVD directory also (in >> addition to playing TV shows recorded by the SageTv DVR server >> software). > > Practically all players will do this, I think, but I much prefer having the DVD as a single file, to move and copy and store. > > A directory containing a a VIDEO_TS and a load of files just seems a > lot more fragile to me. Were you to accidentally delete one of the > VOB files, there would be no way to tell the difference from looking > at the outside of the video's folder. True, but that's never happened. ISO images work fine, but the extra "layer of indirection" is an inefficiency that irritates the engineer in me. >> ? I absolutely dread going to >> back to MythTv with a big, hot, noisy PC sitting next to my TV? > > I bought an eMachines 1401 recently - it's not as perfectly silent as > the PlayOn (which is fanless), but it's *very* close. It's an AMD > atom-equivalent, dual-core, mini desktop PC, about 7" on a side and > maybe 1" thick. Right now, powered on with no load just to judge it > for this conversation, I can hear it if my ear is a foot away from > it, but not 2 or 3 feet away, not against the normal background noise > in my apartment (clock ticking in the kitchen and so on). Right now > its hard-drive is louder than its fan (which is shifting so little > air that I can barely feel it, even putting my hand an inch from the > grille). I think that if you load it up with an emerge then the fan > will ramp up a bit, but I doubt if you'd notice it when watching a > movie. There are some platforms that are getting pretty decent, but they still cost 5X as much as a set-top-box box, draw 10X as much power, and are about 4X larger. They're probably approaching "tolerable", but compared to something like a Roku or SageTv box, they're still an embarassment. I used a Mac Mini for a while as a MythTv frontend, and it was quiet enough that it wasn't noticable unless the room was dead silent. It would have been OK if I had been able to get DVI output working. -- Grant