From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RURp3-0000bZ-C2 for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 26 Nov 2011 23:38:17 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3613121C164; Sat, 26 Nov 2011 23:38:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8F5E321C0B0 for ; Sat, 26 Nov 2011 23:37:11 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A8411B400D for ; Sat, 26 Nov 2011 23:37:11 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -3.992 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.992 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.507, BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.001, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, NML_ADSP_CUSTOM_MED=0.9, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-1.201] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id hpiIO8zXbi-G for ; Sat, 26 Nov 2011 23:37:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 149291B4004 for ; Sat, 26 Nov 2011 23:37:03 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RURnp-0004IX-Ic for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 00:37:01 +0100 Received: from adsl-69-234-184-253.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net ([69.234.184.253]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 00:37:01 +0100 Received: from w41ter by adsl-69-234-184-253.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Sun, 27 Nov 2011 00:37:01 +0100 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: walt Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: gnome 3 has landed Date: Sat, 26 Nov 2011 15:36:49 -0800 Message-ID: References: <4ED16076.5070300@xunil.at> <4ED1640F.4050903@xunil.at> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: adsl-69-234-184-253.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:8.0) Gecko/20111117 Thunderbird/8.0 In-Reply-To: <4ED1640F.4050903@xunil.at> X-Archives-Salt: d111428b-0de7-47cd-a020-e202fabdcda8 X-Archives-Hash: a62c088b3748231911b47d2037722ebb On 11/26/2011 02:11 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: > Am 2011-11-26 22:56, schrieb Stefan G. Weichinger: > >> Let me get this straight: if I want to somehow stay in the world of >> gnome-2.32 (panels, desktop, etc) I could simply avoid masking any of >> the new stuff and use the mentioned gnome-fallback-setting? >> >> I also hesitate to leave my comfort zone ... ;-) (and I am on ~amd64 as >> well). > > I think I will keep on masking ... > > http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gnome-3-fallback.html for example > tells me there are no applets, no desktop-behavior that I am used to. That's where I learned about fallback-mode, but you can indeed install panel applets like system-monitor, weather, clock, etc and add panel icons to start your favorite apps. One *very* important thing to know, however: To do things like move your panel icons around and add new ones, you must alt-right-click on the panel instead of just plain right-click. Took me a while to google that one. (This works only in fallback mode, BTW.) I'd say gnome3 is definitely better now than kde4 was when it first launched. (But that's faint praise indeed :)