From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RIkw6-0001dR-Ve for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 17:37:19 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8CA9E21C084; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 17:37:05 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C8E9621C030 for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 17:36:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 53B361B4015 for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 17:36:06 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -4.067 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.067 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.626, BAYES_00=-1.9, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.504, T_TO_NO_BRKTS_FREEMAIL=0.01] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2H4Zlc6kJG8H for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 17:36:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6063C1B4010 for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 17:35:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RIkuo-0001Ev-K2 for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 19:35:54 +0200 Received: from athedsl-371542.home.otenet.gr ([79.131.3.84]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 19:35:54 +0200 Received: from realnc by athedsl-371542.home.otenet.gr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 25 Oct 2011 19:35:54 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: Nikos Chantziaras Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Problem with sound card Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2011 20:35:31 +0300 Organization: Lucas Barks Message-ID: References: <1319460789.4336.5.camel@localhost.localdomain> <60153291.134fc.13335ed4fc6.Coremail.lavender_matrix@163.com> <1191cc81.13d0d.1333620b171.Coremail.lavender_matrix@163.com> <74b5913c.13385.1333682dc72.Coremail.lavender_matrix@163.com> <2bfc803.de87.1333bb31157.Coremail.lavender_matrix@163.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: athedsl-371542.home.otenet.gr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:7.0.1) Gecko/20111003 Thunderbird/7.0.1 In-Reply-To: X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: d2f732e505d1fc6b552f204ba6165aeb On 10/25/2011 08:11 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 9:58 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >> On 10/25/2011 07:17 PM, Michael Mol wrote: >>> >>> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Mark Knecht >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Paul Hartman >>>>> >>>>> Or that commercial linux sound driver package... I don't even remember >>>>> what it was called anymore. >>>> >>>> OSS I think - something like Open Sound System or some such other >>>> crazy thing, being it was neither Open nor most of the time for me >>>> produced Sound on my System. ;-) >>>> >>>> I think there is still support for it in the kernel. Go figure... >>> >>> It's only been deprecated for over a decade...I can only barely >>> remember a time before ALSA was pulled into the mainline kernel. >> >> OSS is the standard sound system for Unix still to this day though. >> Everybody uses it, except Linux. >> >> It's GPL by the way. I actually use it on my main PC ;-) On supported >> sound cards, it works much better than ALSA. Not the version in the kernel, >> of course, that one is deprecated. The newest version is v4 and is only >> available out-of-kernel. > > I imagine that it's support for the cards it supported in that time > period was probably better than ALSA. I came to Linux looking for a > platform to replace Windows to support Avid's ProTools. As I soon > learned that wasn't going to happen, at least not soon, and it hasn't > changed in the 10-15 years I've been using Linux. However in those > days my need for ALSA was driven by OSS not supporting any sound card > hardware that was of interest to people recording music. ALSA was at > least trying, and has gotten much better over the years with things > like Jack and rt-sources which easily outperforms Windows in terms of > latency. That's true. Though I judge by desktop needs on my machine. The lack of a per-application volume mixer in ALSA is really frustrating. And if you bark about it, you're told to install PulseAudio, which is another can of worms entirely :-/ I guess I'm gonna be using OSSv4 for as long as that old Soundblaster Live I have here refuses to die.