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From: Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?
Date: Wed, 5 Oct 2011 14:46:03 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <j6hqjb$hhi$1@dough.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: CAA2qdGVYus8T-DfxfHjxXa5813T2nk1yhXf1-NhG16OTdx-77g@mail.gmail.com

On 2011-10-05, Pandu Poluan <pandu@poluan.info> wrote:

>> I give up.  I've absolutely no idea what grub2 has to do with the OS's
>> init system, and none of what you've written makes any sense to me.
>
> I think what he meant was:

I assume you mean PID#1 (typically /sbin/init).  On Unixes with PID#0,
it's usually the swapper or scheduler task that's internal to the
kernel.

> The *installer* portion of grub2 is aware of which pid#0 is running
> when it auto-creates the bootloader's configuration. That pid#0 is
> passed on to the kernel by the bootloader.

OK.  I that I understand.  It seems a bit redundant to me: I've been
running Linux since the 0.99 days and never had to pass init= to a
kernel.  But, I guess it won't hurt anything...

> The *bootloader* portion of grub2 don't know and don't care what is
> being used as pid#0 by the OS. All it knows is that the installer
> portion has specified something to be passed to the OS. And that's
> what it does, without understanding anything about pid#0.

And the set of init scripts that belong to grub2 are just to try to
auto-magically generate the config file?

-- 
Grant Edwards               grant.b.edwards        Yow! They collapsed
                                  at               ... like nuns in the
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  reply	other threads:[~2011-10-05 14:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 96+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-10-04  9:49 [gentoo-user] Is grub2 stable and who uses it? Dale
2011-10-04 10:07 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-10-04 10:16   ` Pandu Poluan
2011-10-04 12:56     ` Michael Orlitzky
2011-10-05 16:20       ` ny6p01
2011-10-05 16:47         ` Jonas de Buhr
2011-10-05 23:18           ` Peter Humphrey
2011-10-06  8:12             ` Neil Bothwick
2011-10-06 11:01               ` Alan McKinnon
2011-10-06 13:47                 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-10-06 15:17                   ` Alan McKinnon
2011-10-06 15:25                     ` Michael Mol
2011-10-06 15:35                       ` Alan McKinnon
2011-10-06 15:37                       ` Neil Bothwick
2011-10-06 16:40                       ` Sebastian Beßler
2011-10-07  0:08                         ` Peter Humphrey
2011-10-07  0:42                           ` Michael Mol
2011-10-07  7:38                           ` Alan McKinnon
2011-10-06  8:20             ` [gentoo-user] OT: change and improvement (was: Is grub2 stable and who uses it?) Jonas de Buhr
2011-10-06 19:27               ` [gentoo-user] OT: change and improvement Michael Orlitzky
2011-10-06 19:42                 ` Dale
2011-10-06 20:21                   ` Mick
2011-10-07  3:19                     ` Dale
2011-10-06 21:00                 ` Jonas de Buhr
2011-10-06 21:23                   ` Michael Orlitzky
2011-10-06 21:30                     ` Paul Hartman
2011-10-06 22:33                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-10-06 23:42                     ` Jonas de Buhr
2011-10-07  0:55                       ` Michael Orlitzky
2011-10-07  7:36                         ` Jonas de Buhr
2011-10-07 13:59                           ` Michael Orlitzky
2011-10-07 14:46                             ` Brennan Shacklett
2011-10-07 15:03                               ` Michael Orlitzky
2011-10-07 16:16                             ` Jonas de Buhr
2011-10-07 17:02                               ` Michael Orlitzky
2011-10-07 19:15                             ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2011-10-07  8:47                         ` [gentoo-user] " Neil Bothwick
2011-10-07 13:43                           ` Michael Orlitzky
2011-10-07 14:29                         ` Alan Mackenzie
2011-10-07 14:55                           ` Michael Orlitzky
2011-10-07 15:18                             ` Dale
2011-10-07 15:43                               ` Paul Hartman
2011-10-07  1:41                       ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2011-10-07  1:40                   ` Grant Edwards
2011-10-07  3:32                     ` Dale
2011-10-07  3:39                       ` Michael Mol
2011-10-07  4:42                         ` Michael Orlitzky
2011-10-07  5:01                           ` Michael Mol
2011-10-07  5:09                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-10-07 19:11                           ` Grant Edwards
2011-10-07 19:20                             ` Dale
2011-10-04 14:35   ` [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it? Grant Edwards
2011-10-04 14:53     ` Dale
2011-10-04 20:13       ` Alan McKinnon
2011-10-04 20:52         ` Grant Edwards
2011-10-04 21:20       ` walt
2011-10-04 21:26         ` Grant Edwards
2011-10-04 15:08     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-10-04 18:31       ` Grant Edwards
2011-10-04 18:56         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-10-04 20:33           ` pk
2011-10-04 20:50           ` Grant Edwards
2011-10-04 20:53             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-10-04 21:02               ` Grant Edwards
2011-10-04 21:14                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-10-04 21:24                   ` Grant Edwards
2011-10-04 21:32                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-10-04 22:14                       ` Grant Edwards
2011-10-04 22:21                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-10-05 13:55                           ` Grant Edwards
2011-10-05 14:33                             ` Pandu Poluan
2011-10-05 14:46                               ` Grant Edwards [this message]
2011-10-05 15:01                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2011-10-05 15:29                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2011-10-05 16:56                                 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-10-05 18:42                                   ` Grant Edwards
2011-10-05 19:10                                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-10-05 19:33                                       ` Alan McKinnon
2011-10-05 14:36                             ` Sebastian Beßler
2011-10-05 16:51                             ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-10-05  6:54                       ` Alan McKinnon
2011-10-04 21:33                   ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-10-04 21:46                     ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-10-04 22:04                       ` Michael Schreckenbauer
2011-10-05  0:09                       ` Dale
2011-10-05  3:16                         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-10-05  8:26                     ` Neil Bothwick
2011-10-04 20:11       ` Alan McKinnon
2011-10-04 20:36         ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2011-10-05  8:31         ` Neil Bothwick
2011-10-04 22:31     ` Neil Bothwick
2011-10-06 12:51     ` Harry Putnam
2011-10-06 13:03       ` Tanstaafl
2011-10-06 13:51       ` Neil Bothwick
2011-10-06 17:48         ` Harry Putnam
2011-10-06 19:15           ` Alan McKinnon

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