From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1RBBxj-0006RZ-Un for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 20:51:40 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BAD9021C1B0; Tue, 4 Oct 2011 20:51:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8B79721C0BA for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2011 20:50:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1AF881B401D for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2011 20:50:38 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -5.386 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-5.386 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=1.213, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id XadWwsw12XA5 for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2011 20:50:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9F5001B4013 for ; Tue, 4 Oct 2011 20:50:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RBBwY-0007dS-Kd for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 22:50:26 +0200 Received: from dsl.comtrol.com ([64.122.56.22]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 22:50:26 +0200 Received: from grant.b.edwards by dsl.comtrol.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Tue, 04 Oct 2011 22:50:26 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: Grant Edwards Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Is grub2 stable and who uses it? Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 20:50:12 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: <4E8AD6C4.7070901@gmail.com> <20111004110746.395635e0@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: dsl.comtrol.com User-Agent: slrn/pre0.9.9-102 (Linux) X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 816b11b51f235ef9933346e5816fe6ff On 2011-10-04, Canek Pel??ez Vald??s wrote: >>> That it's not true. It connects to whatever init system do you have >>> (OpenRC, SysV, systemd, Upstart), >> >> I'm curious: what if you don't have one? ??I use grub-legacy to boot >> stuff other than Unix. > > When I said "it connects", I mean "calls". The same way it calls > whatever thingy Window uses. Right. And what about non-windows, non-Unix systems that don't have any thingy to call? >>> and it has scripts to *generate* the config file. >>> >>> The thing is that GRUB2 needs to understand several filesystems to >>> grab the kernel image from. >> >> I understand why GRUB2 is complicated. ??It's the statement that it's >> not complicated that I was disagreeing with. >> >>> It also wants to be able to use a more interesting resolution than >>> 640x480. >> >> That I don't understand. It's a bootloader. ??It needs to allow you to >> pick one of a handfull of choices and boot that choice. > > I agree. That's why GRUB2 now is really 1.99, because it's not finished. > >>> This means that it has to reimplement all the code for any >>> filesystem, >> >> That part I understand. >> >>> and all the code for video handling. >> >> I don't really understand the need for that, but I'm somebody who >> still regularly uses a serial console. ??[Insert the usual "I remember >> when" grumbling here.] > > Then stick with LILO or grub-legacy and root=UUID in your kernel > command line. That's the plan for now, but if things go the way they usually do, grub-legacy will get pulled out from under us before too long and we'll be forced to either use grub2 or stop whinging and voluteer to maintain grub-legacy. :) -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards Yow! Didn't I buy a 1951 at Packard from you last March gmail.com in Cairo?