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From: Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@arcor.de>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Is Gentoo wiping out Gtk 2 support from packages that support it?
Date: Fri, 08 Jul 2011 20:50:57 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <iv7g12$o9$1@dough.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1562264.5oy8gnuzIK@nazgul>

On 07/08/2011 06:19 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On Friday 08 July 2011 09:14:36 Albert Hopkins did opine thusly:
>> On Friday, July 8 at 13:11 (+0100), Stroller said:
>>> Taking a look at this bug today, is there any reason why the
>>> ebuild shouldn't simply RDEPEND="x11-libs/gtk+" (i.e. remove
>>> the explicit dep on gtk3), detect what version you have
>>> installed on your system and then either run --enable-gtk3 or
>>> --enable-gtk2 during src_configure(), depending upon which
>>> you're using?
>>
>> ebuilds generally don't do this, because it is bad.  What you have
>> and what you want aren't necessarily the same thing.  Consider:
>>
>>        * You don't yet have any gtk installed
>>        * You have gtk2 but actually *want* the gtk3 version, so you
>> want the ebuild to pull in gtk3 (or vice versa)
>>        * You have both gtk2 and gtk3 installed.
>>        * You have gtk installed, but don't want gtk support for a
>>          particular package (if gtk support is optional for that
>>          package).
>
> easy.
>
> Two USE flags: gtk2 and gtk3
>
> in ebuild:
>
> DEPEND="
>      gtk2? (x11-libs/gtk+:2)
>      gtk3? (x11-libs/gtk+:3)
> "

Actually, it's better to have "gtk2" and "gtk".  *Not* "gtk3".  That 
would repeat the problems of the past (gtk1->gtk2.)

But the devs have gone into ego-mode by now, so there's no chance in 
hell they would accept help or suggestions about this.  It has reached 
the point where accepting a suggestion would mean "losing the argument" 
to them, so I doubt they'll do any of it as they don't want to "lose" to 
some n00b users.




  parent reply	other threads:[~2011-07-08 18:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2011-07-06 16:35 [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo wiping out Gtk 2 support from packages that support it? Nikos Chantziaras
2011-07-06 17:23 ` pk
2011-07-06 19:37   ` Alan McKinnon
2011-07-06 20:02     ` pk
2011-07-06 20:41       ` Alan McKinnon
2011-07-06 22:53         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-07-06 23:06           ` Dale
2011-07-06 23:20             ` Peter Humphrey
2011-07-06 23:21             ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2011-07-07  3:04               ` Dale
2011-07-07 17:42     ` [gentoo-user] " Michael Orlitzky
2011-07-07 19:36       ` Alan McKinnon
2011-07-07 20:01         ` Michael Orlitzky
2011-07-07 20:47           ` Dale
2011-07-07 20:57             ` Peter Humphrey
2011-07-07 21:03               ` Dale
2011-07-08  4:42           ` 微菜
2011-07-06 18:02 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2011-07-07  2:12 ` 微菜
2011-07-07  2:45   ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2011-07-07  3:31     ` 微菜
2011-07-07  7:30   ` [gentoo-user] " Alan McKinnon
2011-07-07 12:07     ` Stroller
2011-07-07 22:50       ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2011-07-07 23:40         ` Neil Bothwick
2011-07-07 16:44     ` [gentoo-user] " pk
2011-07-07 17:14       ` Mark Knecht
2011-07-07 23:52     ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2011-07-08 12:11 ` [gentoo-user] " Stroller
2011-07-08 13:14   ` Albert Hopkins
2011-07-08 15:19     ` Alan McKinnon
2011-07-08 17:39       ` Stroller
2011-07-09  7:26         ` Alan McKinnon
2011-07-09 14:02           ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2011-07-08 17:50       ` Nikos Chantziaras [this message]
2011-07-08 19:06       ` [gentoo-user] " Albert Hopkins
2011-07-08 20:32         ` Stroller
2011-07-09 16:28       ` William Hubbs
2011-07-09 20:24         ` Alan McKinnon
2011-07-08 18:03     ` Stroller
2011-07-08 13:37   ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras

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