From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QdoVX-0005Uq-Dq for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 19:08:35 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6A8A621C04E; Mon, 4 Jul 2011 19:07:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 34C1E21C04E for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2011 19:07:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 952A81B4002 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2011 19:07:07 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -4.911 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.911 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=1.688, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id nUUTFYVkZz7m for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2011 19:06:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F55B644A6 for ; Mon, 4 Jul 2011 19:06:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QdoTv-0003MW-1f for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 21:06:55 +0200 Received: from athedsl-393920.home.otenet.gr ([79.131.90.190]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 21:06:55 +0200 Received: from realnc by athedsl-393920.home.otenet.gr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Mon, 04 Jul 2011 21:06:55 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: Nikos Chantziaras Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: about boot with framebuffer Date: Mon, 04 Jul 2011 22:07:11 +0300 Organization: Lucas Barks Message-ID: References: <87wrfzm4bv.fsf@newsguy.com> <1309730856.64890.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <87tyb22173.fsf@newsguy.com> <1309753131.5163.2.camel@localhost.localdomain> <87liwd29y6.fsf@newsguy.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: athedsl-393920.home.otenet.gr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110704 Thunderbird/5.0 In-Reply-To: <87liwd29y6.fsf@newsguy.com> X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 12137663d87f9006d36f7ec91295c72b On 07/04/2011 09:10 PM, Harry Putnam wrote: > Albert Hopkins writes: >> On Sunday, July 3 at 22:07 (-0500), Harry Putnam said: >>> this is a no X machine... it appears at the cited URL they expect you >>> to be running xorg. >> >> KMS doesn't require X, but Xorg can use it. Basically Xorg can let the >> kernel handle graphics mode setting and gets out of the way. > > Are you saying it does not require `xorg-x11'. > > Step 2) says in large type: > `2. Installing Xorg' > > Then a big note in a green box later on says: > > ,---- > | Note: You could install the xorg-x11 metapackage instead of the more > | lightweight xorg-server. Functionally, xorg-x11 and xorg-server are > | the same. However, xorg-x11 brings in many more packages that you > | probably don't need, such as a huge assortment of fonts in many > | different languages. They're not necessary for a working desktop. > `---- > > So I'm a little confused. The guide deals with how to make X.Org use KMS. That does not mean that KMS requires X. For your X-less machine, all you need to do is enable the driver for your card in the kernel config, and make sure to also enable KMS. You need to disable the VESA/uvesafb drivers to avoid conflicts. What graphics card do you have, btw?