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David W Noon wrote:

> On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 22:10:02 +0200, Dale wrote about Re: [gentoo-user]
> Threads changing  Was: OT: website design:
> 
> [snip]
>>Well, something works now.  This is threaded as it should be.  So,
>>whatever you are doing, keep doing it that away.  lol
>>
>>I don't want you to think I was upset or anything.  I just went back
>>and noticed you was one of the ones that it was breaking the threads
>>on.
> 
> Not a problem.  In fact, it is not I (or Indi) who is causing the
> breakage.
> 
> A little further investigation has shown that the Message-ID: line of
> all message posted through the Gentoo list server is rewritten,
> regardless of its initial value.  This is why correctly posted messages
> have the Bastard Operator From Hell designation: the domain name of
> Gentoo's list server is bofh.it.  This also means that those who read
> this list's messages via email will always see a valid Message-ID: line.
> 
> Now, one other possible cause of message id mismatch is people posting
> directly to Usenet as well as through the list server.  All NNTP
> servers should have the newsgroup that is a reflection of this mailing
> list marked as "no posting allowed"; certainly
> news.eternal-september.org is configured that way.  However, if a
> misposted message gets through from another Usenet-registered NNTP
> server, I will see it with the alternate Message-ID: line, not the one
> generated by the Gentoo list server.  It is messages such as this that
> cause the breakage in threads when somebody (anybody) reading through
> an NNTP server posts a follow-up to such a message.
> 
> So, when you see a breakage in a message thread, it is the message that
> is the tail-end of the original thread that is causing the breakage,
> not the message that apparently starts the new thread.
> 
> I hope all is clear now.

... as mud!

This reply of yours (unlike your previous) is shown as a new thread in 
Knode, not as a threaded reply to Dale's message.  :@

PS. I'm responding using Knode and news.gmane.org as an NNTP server, to see 
what difference this may make.
-- 
Regards,
Mick