From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-123747-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1QSzkC-0001lV-FL for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Sat, 04 Jun 2011 22:55:00 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 085491C06B; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 22:53:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B49571C06B for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 22:53:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B2031B4035 for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 22:53:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -3.138 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-3.138 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=1.394, BAYES_00=-2.599, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-4, RCVD_NUMERIC_HELO=2.067] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id P7icL7xSMcqr for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 22:53:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2E7121B4033 for <gentoo-user@gentoo.org>; Sat, 4 Jun 2011 22:53:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from <lnx-gentoo-user@m.gmane.org>) id 1QSzie-0008Hf-Au for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 00:53:24 +0200 Received: from 230.3.169.217.in-addr.arpa ([217.169.3.230]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <gentoo-user@gentoo.org>; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 00:53:24 +0200 Received: from michaelkintzios by 230.3.169.217.in-addr.arpa with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for <gentoo-user@gentoo.org>; Sun, 05 Jun 2011 00:53:24 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Threads changing Was: OT: website design Followup-To: gmane.linux.gentoo.user Date: Sat, 04 Jun 2011 23:53:50 +0100 Message-ID: <ised0l$m87$1@dough.gmane.org> References: <gZXPY-7QA-21@gated-at.bofh.it> <h04Rs-2L8-3@gated-at.bofh.it> <h04Rs-2L8-5@gated-at.bofh.it> <h04Rs-2L8-7@gated-at.bofh.it> <h04Rs-2L8-9@gated-at.bofh.it> <h04Rs-2L8-11@gated-at.bofh.it> <h04Rs-2L8-13@gated-at.bofh.it> <h04Rs-2L8-15@gated-at.bofh.it> <gZXPY-7QA-23@gated-at.bofh.it> <h04Rr-2L8-1@gated-at.bofh.it> <h05ku-3FK-7@gated-at.bofh.it> <20110604232200.36c03637@karnak.local> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: 230.3.169.217.in-addr.arpa User-Agent: KNode/4.4.11 X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: d0aa71097c5df41443f5a752c55e2c2e David W Noon wrote: > On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 22:10:02 +0200, Dale wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] > Threads changing Was: OT: website design: > > [snip] >>Well, something works now. This is threaded as it should be. So, >>whatever you are doing, keep doing it that away. lol >> >>I don't want you to think I was upset or anything. I just went back >>and noticed you was one of the ones that it was breaking the threads >>on. > > Not a problem. In fact, it is not I (or Indi) who is causing the > breakage. > > A little further investigation has shown that the Message-ID: line of > all message posted through the Gentoo list server is rewritten, > regardless of its initial value. This is why correctly posted messages > have the Bastard Operator From Hell designation: the domain name of > Gentoo's list server is bofh.it. This also means that those who read > this list's messages via email will always see a valid Message-ID: line. > > Now, one other possible cause of message id mismatch is people posting > directly to Usenet as well as through the list server. All NNTP > servers should have the newsgroup that is a reflection of this mailing > list marked as "no posting allowed"; certainly > news.eternal-september.org is configured that way. However, if a > misposted message gets through from another Usenet-registered NNTP > server, I will see it with the alternate Message-ID: line, not the one > generated by the Gentoo list server. It is messages such as this that > cause the breakage in threads when somebody (anybody) reading through > an NNTP server posts a follow-up to such a message. > > So, when you see a breakage in a message thread, it is the message that > is the tail-end of the original thread that is causing the breakage, > not the message that apparently starts the new thread. > > I hope all is clear now. ... as mud! This reply of yours (unlike your previous) is shown as a new thread in Knode, not as a threaded reply to Dale's message. :@ PS. I'm responding using Knode and news.gmane.org as an NNTP server, to see what difference this may make. -- Regards, Mick