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From: Grant Edwards <grant.b.edwards@gmail.com>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?
Date: Sun, 14 Nov 2010 15:36:43 +0000 (UTC)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <ibovmb$d8b$1@dough.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 201011140947.04566.michaelkintzios@gmail.com

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On 2010-11-14, Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:

>> Before you go to great pains to get this working, you do know that hal
>> is checking out right?

Yes, I knew that.  Maybe I'll just live without the touchpad until HAL
goes away for good.

My question is why did the Gentoo maintainers decide to use HAL
instead of xorg.conf?

>> Even the person who wrote it realized the mess it was and it is dying
>> pretty soon.  I think it is policykit or polkit or something to that
>> effect.  If you want to start using that instead, it may save you
>> some headaches later on when it is no longer a option.
>
> As Dale suggests don't waste your time on hal and its fdi files. 
> xorg 1.8.x will be going stable soon and that does away with hal
> configuration.  I recommend that you unmask it and see if you can
> control your touchpad easier using an xorg.conf and evdev.  However,
> the synaptics driver is there for a reason ...
>
> http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/x/x11/xorg-server-1.8-upgrade-guide.xml
>
> BTW, if you want to remain with xorg 1.7.x then I recommend you try the 
> following:
>
> 1. Add synaptics to your INPUT_DEVICES in /etc/make.conf - most often
>    than not it will just work™ and no further adjustment of
>    sensitivity is necessary.

I did that, but the synaptics driver doesn't get used by default. Once
you've installed it, how do you get the server to use it? I think I
should abandon HAL and switch to xorg.conf.  It's so much easier to
use.

> 2. Then run lshal to see if your touchpad is recognised.  In my
>    laptop (I use hal) it shows this:
>
>==================================================
> udi = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/pci_8086_d132'
>   info.parent = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/computer'  (string)
>   info.product = 'Core Processor DMI'  (string)
>   info.category = 'input'  (string)
>   info.parent = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_AUX_port'  
> (string)
>   info.product = 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad'  (string)
>   info.subsystem = 'input'  (string)
>   info.udi = 
> '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_AUX_port_logicaldev_input'  
> (string)
>   input.device = '/dev/input/event6'  (string)
>   input.originating_device = '/org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/platform_i8042_i8042_AUX_port'  (string)
>   input.product = 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad'  (string)
>   input.x11_driver = 'synaptics'  (string)
>   input.x11_options.ClickButton1 = '1'  (string)
>   input.x11_options.HorizEdgeScroll = 'true'  (string)
>   input.x11_options.MaxTapMove = '2000'  (string)
>   input.x11_options.TapButton1 = '1'  (string)
>   input.x11_options.VertEdgeScroll = 'true'  (string)
>   linux.device_file = '/dev/input/event6'  (string)
>   linux.hotplug_type = 2  (0x2)  (int)
>   linux.subsystem = 'input'  (string)
>   linux.sysfs_path = '/sys/devices/platform/i8042/serio1/input/input6/event6'  
> (string)
>==================================================
>
> In the info section above it tells me that touchpad is recognised. 
> Looking into
> /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/11-x11-synaptics.fdi I see that
> by installing the synaptics driver a hal configuration file was
> created.
>
> Copy this to /etc/hal/fdi/policy/11-x11-synaptics.fdi (you can call
> it something different if you wish) and add an option line to adjust
> sensitivity:
>
><merge key="input.x11_options.PressureMotionMinZ" type="integer">25</merge>
>
> Play with different integer values to see what works and also look at
> the synaptics man page for different options, in case
> PressureMotionMin is not what you need.  Each time you make a change
> you should restart hal or the xserver to see the result.
>
> 3. Without synaptics a lot depends on what the evdev or mouse drivers
>    can do - they may not have pressure related options to play with.
>    Again I would start with their man pages and follow the example
>    above, as long as lshal shows which driver has captured the
>    touchpad events.

So you're saying that without the synaptics driver there is no
sensitivity adjustment?




  reply	other threads:[~2010-11-14 15:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 74+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-11-14  1:10 [gentoo-user] How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)? Grant Edwards
2010-11-14  2:37 ` Dale
2010-11-14  9:46   ` Mick
2010-11-14 15:36     ` Grant Edwards [this message]
2010-11-14 16:15       ` [gentoo-user] " Onteria
2010-11-14 17:02       ` Mick
2010-11-15 15:31         ` Grant Edwards
2010-11-15 17:09           ` Alan McKinnon
2010-11-15 20:51             ` Grant Edwards
2010-11-15 22:38               ` Alan McKinnon
2010-11-16  5:25                 ` Grant Edwards
2010-11-15 22:56             ` Dale
2010-11-15 23:25               ` Alan McKinnon
2010-11-16  0:26                 ` Dale
2010-11-15 17:48     ` [gentoo-user] " Marc Joliet
2010-11-14  9:55   ` Sebastian Beßler
2010-11-18 11:04 ` Fernando Antunes
2010-11-18 15:48   ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2010-11-18 22:24     ` Mick
2010-11-19  4:55       ` Grant Edwards
2010-11-19 11:41         ` Mick
2010-12-12  1:52           ` Grant Edwards
2010-12-12  5:57             ` Valmor de Almeida
2010-12-12 10:59               ` Mick
2010-12-12 17:10                 ` Valmor de Almeida
2010-12-13  0:17                   ` Peter Humphrey
2010-12-13  5:04                     ` Valmor de Almeida
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2010-11-16 16:26         ` David W Noon
2010-11-16 18:11           ` Grant Edwards
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2010-11-16 22:28             ` David W Noon
2010-11-17  0:00               ` Alan McKinnon
2010-11-17  3:14                 ` Dale
2010-11-18  0:43                 ` Walter Dnes
2010-11-18  0:59                   ` Alan McKinnon
2010-11-18  1:46                     ` Grant Edwards
2010-11-18  3:47                       ` Stroller
2010-11-18  3:59                         ` Grant Edwards
2010-11-18  4:17                           ` Dale
2010-11-18  4:56                           ` Stroller
2010-11-18 12:46                         ` Alan McKinnon
2010-11-18  9:31                       ` Sebastian Beßler
2010-11-18 12:47                         ` Alan McKinnon
2010-11-18 14:12                           ` Sebastian Beßler
2010-11-18 14:21                             ` Alan McKinnon
2010-11-18 14:24                               ` Sebastian Beßler
2010-11-18 14:56                               ` Neil Bothwick
2010-11-19  2:17                               ` Walter Dnes
2010-11-19  3:14                     ` Walter Dnes
2010-11-19  9:14                       ` Neil Bothwick
2010-11-19 10:02                         ` Dale
2010-11-18  4:52                   ` Stroller
2010-11-19  3:55                     ` Walter Dnes
2010-11-17 13:52               ` Stroller
2010-11-17 15:29               ` Grant Edwards
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2010-11-17 16:47                 ` David W Noon
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2010-11-17 16:48                 ` David W Noon
2010-11-17 19:22                   ` Neil Bothwick
2010-11-17 21:18                     ` Grant Edwards
2010-11-17 22:42                       ` Alan McKinnon
2010-11-18 11:37                         ` Neil Bothwick
2010-11-18 11:43                           ` J. Roeleveld
2010-11-18 11:52                             ` Neil Bothwick
2010-11-18 12:32                               ` J. Roeleveld
2010-11-18 13:18                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2010-11-18 13:28                                   ` Alan McKinnon
2010-11-18 13:33                                   ` J. Roeleveld
2010-11-18 13:37                                     ` Neil Bothwick
2010-11-19 11:11                                       ` Peter Humphrey
2010-11-18 12:42                           ` Alan McKinnon
2010-11-18 12:46                             ` Neil Bothwick
2010-11-19 11:07                         ` Peter Humphrey
2010-11-19 13:41                           ` Alan McKinnon
2010-11-19 15:28                             ` Peter Humphrey
2010-11-19 15:38                               ` Alan McKinnon

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