From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1P1ODP-000487-2p for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 18:50:47 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4739EE0AD5; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 18:50:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 09B38E0AD5 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 18:50:21 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5AC421B4116 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 18:50:20 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new using ClamAV at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -2.268 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.268 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=0.331, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Zz8ikvyiFb1W for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 18:50:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 361861B41BD for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 18:50:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1P1OCh-0008Ee-KG for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 20:50:03 +0200 Received: from dsl.comtrol.com ([64.122.56.22]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 20:50:03 +0200 Received: from grant.b.edwards by dsl.comtrol.com with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 30 Sep 2010 20:50:03 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: Grant Edwards Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: ridiculously wide handbook pages Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 18:49:02 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: References: Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: dsl.comtrol.com User-Agent: slrn/pre0.9.9-102 (Linux) X-Archives-Salt: 4c061ad9-f824-445e-9ac1-aa8d94d4f679 X-Archives-Hash: 308af359e4c30903e4496c574576f46e On 2010-09-30, Darren Kirby wrote: > On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 12:34 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: >> On Thu, Sep 30, 2010 at 10:13 AM, Grant Edwards >> wrote: >>> I've noticed recently that the Gentoo handbook web pages are >>> ridiculously wide. (It seems to me that they didn't used to be, but I >>> wouldn't swear to that). >>> >>> For example, look at this page: >>> >>> ?http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/base/embedded/handbook/?part=1&chap=2 >>> >> >> I'll admit that a couple of times I've found this frustrating but not >> enough that I'd ask anyone to change things. >> >> I think the frustration, candidly, is that the web page programming >> doesn't allow me to narrow the page as much as I might like and still >> read the text. Sometimes I just want the browser to cover 1/2 the >> screen, so that might be 600 pixels or so. Or maybe this is a Firefox >> thing, not sure. > OK, well this is getting weird because that is exactly the behavior I > am seeing from both firefox and konqueror...it would appear I'm the > only one? > > To be absolutely clear: When I resize the windows the text reformats > itself on the fly from wide short paragraphs to narrow long > paragraphs. That only happens for me on pages that don't have any literal (listing?) blocsk with light-blue backgrounds. > No horizontal scroll bar which I agree is beyond annoying. This is > the behavior I see from pretty much all well-designed web pages, and > I rather thought it was default. The stuff in the light-blue blocks can't be wrapped/reformatted, so when you narrow the window so that it's not wide enough for any of the light-blue blocks on the page, you _should_ get a scroll bar. Do those light-blue blocks get reformatted for you? Or do they just get clipped with way scroll-right and see them? However, even you need to use the scrollbar to see the right-hand-end of a light-blue block, I think the normal paragraphs should reformat so they stay visible. I know that can be done, because the web pages I create with asciidoc behave that way. Letting the width of the text blocks for any given page be determined by the width of the command-line examlples doesn't make sense to me. -- Grant Edwards grant.b.edwards Yow! I just had a NOSE at JOB!! gmail.com