From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OeHWx-0006bc-5l for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 01:03:27 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4D8D6E0ACE for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 01:03:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2334CE095C for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 00:44:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A94851B4340 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 00:44:52 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -2.928 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.928 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.329, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id be7T8p5c2x9e for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 00:44:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A02DF1B4173 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 00:44:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OeHEm-0006sN-FP for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 02:44:40 +0200 Received: from athedsl-376972.home.otenet.gr ([79.131.24.138]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 02:44:40 +0200 Received: from realnc by athedsl-376972.home.otenet.gr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 29 Jul 2010 02:44:40 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: Nikos Chantziaras Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: how to remove HAL Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 03:44:38 +0300 Organization: Lucas Barks Message-ID: References: <20100728182346.751a4d8a@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: athedsl-376972.home.otenet.gr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100722 Thunderbird/3.1.1 In-Reply-To: X-Archives-Salt: d5712948-bebc-41b3-ae37-7535ae77fceb X-Archives-Hash: dd0f3bad4cd0c5c0bc58e37fbdaa392e Just after posting this, I realized that KDE 4.4 uses policykit, but 4.5 uses the new polkit. I guess that's why I never needed to mess with any configuration files. On 07/29/2010 03:38 AM, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > Btw, I think now the package is "polkit", not "policykit"; I think the > first replaced the second. If you enable the "policykit" USE flag for > kdelibs and consolekit, only sys-auth/polkit gets installed, not > sys-auth/policykit. However, if you enable that USE flag globally in > make.conf, then I think both get installed because some package probably > depend on the older package. > > Anyway, I don't have a "policykit.conf". Or if I have one, I don't know > where it is and I never edited it. And yet everything seems to be > working just fine here. > > > On 07/29/2010 03:31 AM, Andrey Vul wrote: >> Ugh. Now i'll actually have to config policykit.conf. >> For some reason, match group=wheel return yes fails so much. Somehow >> the mount-ro defaults to no every time >> >> On 2010-07-28, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >>> On 07/28/2010 11:54 PM, Andrey Vul wrote: >>>> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 14:50, Nikos Chantziaras >>>> wrote: >>>>> On 07/28/2010 08:23 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:31:21 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> And why do you want to remove it in the first place? It's not gonna >>>>>>> eat your cat. >>>>>> >>>>>> Although it may kill your crew. >>>>> >>>>> I think most people don't understand what X used HAL for. They think >>>>> that >>>>> they can remove HAL and still have stuff like USB >>>>> hotplugging/automounting >>>>> working. But that's wrong. Gnome/KDE use HAL for this, not X. And if >>>>> you >>>>> disable HAL completely, that stuff will stop working. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> E.g. solid-hardware for HAL-mounting devices by uuid/volume-id. >>>> >>>> I just got rid of policykit - too much trouble. >>>> But I kept HAL because it's very useful. >>> >>> If you're on KDE, you will need policykit again in the future, since >>> with KDE 4.5 (to be released in a matter of days) it's not really >>> optional anymore. I got hit by this when updating to it (now at RC3): >>> >>> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=244444 > > >