From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OeDsi-0006kB-Aa for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:09:40 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3AF2DE0886; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:09:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1CD16E0886 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:09:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2BCA1B4071 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:09:05 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -2.93 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.93 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.331, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id xYMehcU4vMWP for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:08:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64D541B4088 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 21:08:56 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OeDrw-00015Z-R5 for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:08:52 +0200 Received: from athedsl-376972.home.otenet.gr ([79.131.24.138]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:08:52 +0200 Received: from realnc by athedsl-376972.home.otenet.gr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Wed, 28 Jul 2010 23:08:52 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org From: Nikos Chantziaras Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: how to remove HAL Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2010 00:08:45 +0300 Organization: Lucas Barks Message-ID: References: <20100728182346.751a4d8a@zaphod.digimed.co.uk> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: athedsl-376972.home.otenet.gr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100722 Thunderbird/3.1.1 In-Reply-To: X-Archives-Salt: 1a018747-c60f-433c-9b82-52d243fc380c X-Archives-Hash: a537c2c22cca6eb4f79637e9f53b7534 On 07/28/2010 11:54 PM, Andrey Vul wrote: > On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 14:50, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >> On 07/28/2010 08:23 PM, Neil Bothwick wrote: >>> >>> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 19:31:21 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >>> >>>> And why do you want to remove it in the first place? It's not gonna >>>> eat your cat. >>> >>> Although it may kill your crew. >> >> I think most people don't understand what X used HAL for. They think that >> they can remove HAL and still have stuff like USB hotplugging/automounting >> working. But that's wrong. Gnome/KDE use HAL for this, not X. And if you >> disable HAL completely, that stuff will stop working. >> >> > > E.g. solid-hardware for HAL-mounting devices by uuid/volume-id. > > I just got rid of policykit - too much trouble. > But I kept HAL because it's very useful. If you're on KDE, you will need policykit again in the future, since with KDE 4.5 (to be released in a matter of days) it's not really optional anymore. I got hit by this when updating to it (now at RC3): https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=244444