From: Nikos Chantziaras <realnc@arcor.de>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Phonon + PulseAudio Problem
Date: Sat, 22 May 2010 21:02:51 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ht9676$ucu$1@dough.gmane.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTil0dM9UjCLT4xJmVQ8gLR_x--I45QWJk06B_vTH@mail.gmail.com>
On 05/22/2010 07:59 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
> On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 1:21 AM, Nikos Chantziaras<realnc@arcor.de> wrote:
>> Latency is the delay between giving the order to play a sound and the sound
>> actually being played. It's usually around 30ms here with ALSA/dmix, and
>> around 10ms with OSS/vmix. It's not funny trying to play something in a
>> software synth with a keyboard when having a 30ms latency.
>
> As I said, you're doing it wrong. No "normal" (average desktop, media
> center, laptop, linux-phone) user needs 10ms of latency in audio.
> That's overkill. Yours is a special case, and you need special
> software. Try Jack.
I don't do professional audio. I have a normal PC. And just like I
sometimes use a synth in Windows (I'm just a hobbyist), I'd like to do
the same in Linux.
Windows: I don't need Jack there. Audio latency is low even with
non-ASIO drivers.
Linux: I suddenly need "Jack" and specialty hacks and must do without a
mixer! No thanks. OSSv4 allows me to use my machine in the same manner
as Windows: It just works and does the right thing regardless of the
application I'm running.
ALSA/Pulse needing third-party stuff just to get basics right
(acceptable latency; not *ultra* low latency, just acceptable one) is a
sign that they're not designed right.
And OSS4 dying because of kernel-mixing is a bit far-stretched. "No FP
mixing in kernel" is Linux-specific. Other kernels don't have a problem
with that.
And in the end, you know what? Even if OSS4 had a broken design, it's
still better, because it works better. At least it gets the basics
right. Other operating systems are much more advanced in that manner.
It's ALSA that holds Linux audio back.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-05-22 18:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-19 19:59 [gentoo-user] Phonon + PulseAudio Problem Fabian Köster
2010-05-19 21:56 ` [gentoo-user] " walt
2010-05-20 8:15 ` Alan McKinnon
2010-05-20 8:40 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2010-05-20 11:13 ` Alan McKinnon
2010-05-20 17:30 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2010-05-20 17:57 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2010-05-20 18:44 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2010-05-20 18:45 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2010-05-20 19:04 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2010-05-20 19:25 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2010-05-20 19:36 ` Alan McKinnon
2010-05-20 22:08 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2010-05-20 23:03 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2010-05-21 1:08 ` Jonathan
2010-05-21 18:07 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2010-05-21 7:02 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2010-05-21 18:26 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2010-05-21 19:29 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2010-05-21 19:38 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-05-22 6:21 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2010-05-22 16:59 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2010-05-22 18:02 ` Nikos Chantziaras [this message]
2010-05-22 18:18 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-05-22 20:26 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2010-05-22 20:31 ` Barry Jibb
2010-05-23 14:37 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-05-22 16:54 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2010-05-22 17:04 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-05-20 9:10 ` Fabian Köster
2010-05-21 1:21 ` [gentoo-user] " Jonathan
2010-05-21 8:20 ` Fabian Köster
2010-05-23 10:28 ` [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] " Fabian Köster
2010-05-23 10:38 ` Barry Jibb
2010-05-23 10:56 ` Fabian Köster
2010-05-23 11:21 ` Etaoin Shrdlu
2010-05-23 11:44 ` Indexer
2010-05-23 11:49 ` Etaoin Shrdlu
2010-05-23 14:05 ` Peter Humphrey
2010-05-23 14:09 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-05-23 14:40 ` Etaoin Shrdlu
2010-05-23 14:55 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-05-23 14:40 ` Etaoin Shrdlu
2010-05-23 17:43 ` Willie Wong
2010-05-24 0:24 ` Peter Humphrey
2010-05-24 22:10 ` Neil Bothwick
2010-05-23 11:03 ` Fabian Köster
2010-05-24 22:14 ` Neil Bothwick
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