From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1OF6Mf-0001hB-Lj for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 20 May 2010 14:04:46 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 5C197E0863; Thu, 20 May 2010 19:04:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.gentoo.org (smtp.gentoo.org [140.211.166.183]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 33E3BE0863 for ; Thu, 20 May 2010 19:04:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CF2261B402F for ; Thu, 20 May 2010 19:04:39 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at gentoo.org X-Spam-Score: -2.985 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.985 required=5.5 tests=[AWL=-0.386, BAYES_00=-2.599] Received: from smtp.gentoo.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.gentoo.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6hwIMRVZmJTM for ; Thu, 20 May 2010 19:04:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lo.gmane.org (lo.gmane.org [80.91.229.12]) by smtp.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E5281B404A for ; Thu, 20 May 2010 19:04:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by lo.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1OFB2g-0001pu-4V for gentoo-user@gentoo.org; Thu, 20 May 2010 21:04:26 +0200 Received: from athedsl-394855.home.otenet.gr ([79.131.94.101]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 20 May 2010 21:04:26 +0200 Received: from realnc by athedsl-394855.home.otenet.gr with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Thu, 20 May 2010 21:04:26 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org connect(): No such file or directory From: Nikos Chantziaras Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Phonon + PulseAudio Problem Date: Thu, 20 May 2010 22:04:52 +0300 Organization: Lucas Barks Message-ID: References: <201005192159.29314.koesterreich@gmx.net> <201005201015.41416.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> <201005201313.21106.alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: athedsl-394855.home.otenet.gr User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux x86_64; en-US; rv:1.9.1.9) Gecko/20100410 Thunderbird/3.0.4 In-Reply-To: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Archives-Salt: be73adef-cddc-43ae-ac94-80d8bc1a6ba4 X-Archives-Hash: 5f392cd87e19c725004cbe74fd9aeb14 On 05/20/2010 09:44 PM, Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s wrote: > On Thu, May 20, 2010 at 12:57 PM, Nikos Chantziaras w= rote: >> On 05/20/2010 08:30 PM, Canek Pel=C3=A1ez Vald=C3=A9s wrote: >>> >>> Don't >>> even mention OSS4; the sound architecture goes in user space, not the >>> kernel. >> >> I don't care where they go (why the hell should I?), for as long as th= ey >> work. > > You should care, because if it breaks inside the kernel, it probably > takes away the whole operating system. And then you lose work and > you're sad. Well, it doesn't break here. It's been rock-solid through the years.=20 It's too bad it's going to die though; it was the only way to get solid=20 sound for me. ALSA with its out-of-kernel dmix sucked, like, forever. What doesn't work is PulseAudio, actually. Too many problems with it.=20 Pulse is simply broken by design; it's too far from the kernel to be any=20 good. > But don't take my word for it; Intel+Nokia are using PulseAudio in > MeeGo, and Google it's doing the same with Android. They are making an > opinion with their wallets. > > (And doesn't really matters, but I haven't heard that it's possible to > switch audio from internal speakers to bluetooth headset with OSS4, so > as far as I'm concerned, it doesn't work.) ALSA can't switch to Bluetooth either. You could use PulseAudio with=20 OSS4 instead of with ALSA though, but this is not officially supported.